Californians Suggest ‘Calexit’ in Wake of Donald Trump Win

This is about California "progressives" wanting California to secede. That's California, the state with 12% of the nations population but 34% of all welfare recipients. Let the loons in California leave, they won't last long once their EBT cards go to $0 and nobody is paying their college (and I use the word "college" very loosely) tuition.

 

EBT cards - WRONG again:




States with the most people on food stamps:
Louisiana. • Number of food stamp recipients: 868,192. ...
Tennessee. • Number of food stamp recipients: Just over 1.28 million. ...
Oregon. • Number of food stamp recipients: 791,222. ...
West Virginia. • Number of food stamp recipients: 369,249. ...



again, source: wiki

 

Your source is over 6 years old. My local news had a story last year claiming that according to the census and changing school enrollment data, that Hispanics had passed whites as the largest population group in Texas. I don't have a link, but I doubt they were lying.

You assume that Hispanics automatically vote liberal. That's not the case in Texas. Texas Catholics are more likely to vote pro-life from what I've seen. Legal immigrants are also overwhelmingly anti-illegal immigration. Especially my friends from Mexico. That could change as more illegals with anchor babies become eligible to vote. Is that the demographic that you think will bring my state "to it's senses"?

 

Last I read, California had the 4th largest economy in the WORLD. If it no longer has the 4th largest economy in the WORLD, it's only because of the drains placed on it by the rest of the country. It needs Texas like I need a second rectum.

 

Woohoo!
Let them go!

 

Census is taken every ten years so that it is impossible to accurately measure the numbers any better. Just because an unnamed neighbor of yours supports the Republicans doesn't mean your ''proof'' is better than the government itself.

 

Calexit a Russian Plot? Heh, why not.

Why Russia Loves the Idea of California Seceding


..Marinelli, 30, was an unlikely messenger for the “Calexit” cause. He doesn’t live in California. He lives in Yekaterinburg—about 1,000 miles from Moscow—with his Russian wife. But it was not surprising that he had found a platform for his YesCalifornia movement in Moscow. Secession is a popular topic here—as long as it’s from someone else’s country.

..“YesCalifornia isn’t a Californian movement,” said Jed Wheeler, the general secretary of the California National Party. “YesCalifornia is a movement whose optics are all designed for a Russian audience to reinforce [Vladimir] Putin, by talking about…how terrible America is, and reinforcing [the idea that] Putin is this great guy who is admired all over the world.”.

 

Here's more:

http://hotair.com/archives/2017/01/24/one-third-of-californians-support-calexit/

One-third of Californians support Calexit
POSTED AT 3:01 PM ON JANUARY 24, 2017 BY JOHN SEXTON

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Reuters has a poll out which found a surprising number of Californians are ready to secede from the union now that Donald Trump is president:

One in every three California residents supports the most populous U.S. state’s peaceful withdrawal from the union, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll, many of them Democrats strongly opposed to Trump’s ascension to the country’s highest office.

The 32 percent support rate is sharply higher than the last time the poll asked Californians about secession, in 2014, when one-in-five or 20 percent favored it around the time Scotland held its independence referendum and voted to remain in the United Kingdom.

California also far surpasses the national average favoring secession, which stood at 22 percent, down from 24 percent in 2014.
There is already a move to get Calexit on the ballot in 2019. Here’s a sample of the pitch:

In our view, the United States of America represents so many things that conflict with Californian values, and our continued statehood means California will continue subsidizing the other states to our own detriment, and to the detriment of our children…

In 2016, the United Kingdom voted to leave the international community with their “Brexit” vote. Our “Calexit” referendum is about California joining the international community.
Reuters write up on its poll results does not break the responses down by party but it does indicate the support for secession is especially strong among disillusioned Democrats. It would be interesting to see what percentage of California Democrats are ready to bolt the United States because of Trump.

Of course California isn’t the only state which has flirted with abandoning the U.S. Prior to the election, Public Policy Polling, which often asks gag questions intended to embarrass Republicans, found that 40% of Texans would consider secession if Clinton won the election.

This still sounds like a fringe idea but the numbers suggest a lot of regular people on the right and the left are open to it. If the country continues to polarize, you have to assume the states which represent the far ends of the political continuum—California, Texas and maybe New York—could eventually see this become a majority opinion.

 

So.. Californians... when do you leave?

Since you no longer want to be part of the US, why not head to Canada/Australia? Why bother with secession?

They'll be happy to take you and we'll be happy to see you leave.

 

Here's more:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-establish-california-as-separate-nation.html

Officials announce proposal that would establish California as separate nation
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A proposal for California to secede from the United States was submitted to the Secretary of State’s Office Thursday.

The proposed “Calexit” initiative - its name borrowed from the UK's "Brexit" departure from the EU - would ask voters to repeal part of the state constitution that declares California an inseparable part of the U.S.

A recent poll found that one in three California residents would support a possible secession from the U.S. due to their opposition to President Trump. No mention has been made of the president in the proposal.

If the proposal qualifies for the ballot and is approved by voters, it could be a step to a future vote on whether the state would break away from the rest of the nation.

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Secretary of State Alex Padilla said the group behind the proposal, Yes California Independence Campaign, was cleared to begin attempting to collect nearly 600,000 voter signatures needed to place the plan on the ballot.

"In our view, the United States of America represents so many things that conflict with Californian values, and our continued statehood means California will continue subsidizing the other states to our own detriment, and to the detriment of our children," the Yes campaign's website says.

Similar attempts to establish California as a nation, or break it into multiple states, have failed.

The proposed constitutional amendment, titled California Nationhood, would also ask voters to repeal language that states the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law. If approved, it calls for scheduling a vote in 2019 to ask voters, "Should California become a free, sovereign and independent country?"

"America already hates California, and America votes on emotions," Marcus Evans, vice president of Yes California told the Los Angeles Times. "I think we'd have the votes today if we held it."

The campaign must submit the valid voter signatures by July 25 to qualify for the ballot.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

 

Just rescinding the 16th and 17th amendments would be a start toward achieving the same results.

 

For Kalifornia needs I would add.....
Thousands of Porta Potties
Pressure washers
Bags for needles

 

Fun fact about the US: California can't leave the US.

It should be known that it's impossible for any state to leave the US once it gets statehood.
Sure, you can carve up existing states into new states, like the State of Jefferson out of California and Oregon, but California and Oregon would still be US states because of this clause that it's impossible for any state to leave the US once it gets statehood.
That's why Abraham Lincoln was quick to restore the union and be like 'what Secessionists? - Didn't even happen in the eyes of the US, they were always the US.'

I wish the Queen of England's secret letter to Biden read something like
Her majesty isn't going to live forever, so I hereby wish to transfer powers and taxation to Washington D.C upon my death and abdication of the throne
I have contacted my head of government who's interested in this idea, so I wish to dissolve the UK of GB and NI to hand it over to Washington D.C to become a US territory with the option of US statehood in the future.

Because that would at least be interesting, and I'm tired of the monarchy and I want in.
But that's just wishful thinking on my part, but if that ever happened, and Biden said yes, and then UK became a US state - it'll be locked like that FOREVER, because that's how it works; Once you're a US state, you're never not a US state.

 

a little off topic, but that issue has been discussed on this forum.

The UK as the 51st State

 

Rumors told that this is becoming the case due to Brexit.... because in any negotiations of UK and US it is a negotiation between dwarf (UK) and giant (US). Or in other words ... The British need the goodwill of the US here when it comes to British wishes and demands. If the US say no to something, that's no and the British only have the choice of "eat or die".

 

Yeah, I digressed a bit/a lot, but, my point remains.

Once granted statehood a US state is a US state forever.

I don't even know if a US state can get renamed even, hence there not being an East Virginia when West Virginia split.
It could be because 'now there will always be a Virginia' or it's because no one wanted to change the name to East Virginia and states can't leave but can change their name maybe, I don't know, all I know is, once granted statehood, you're locked into the US forever.

It is what it is, that's why Calexit is impossible, for this reason, since California was granted statehood.

California, a state so rich it drew it's own lines and told Washington;
'you either take it or we'd form our own country'.
So Washington accepted, that's why it's bigger in area too than its neighbouring states - so I get why'd they want to be independent, but it has to be understood, once you get statehood...

Spoiler

It's a state forever/cannot leave the union...

... You get the idea.

 

Well I'm not recommending it.

 

It's not for me to say.
But a lot of reasons to love America are Californian too, so, God Bless America.

 

'it drew its own lines'

I did a typo/typing oversight that wasn't flagged up by my device and now it's sticking out at me and I can't edit it, so that's what I meant to say, 'it drew its own lines', and not 'it is drew their own lines' when I wrote 'it drew it's own lines', because that would be retarded - still, if that's all I have to complain about...
Everything in my world where I'm posting this is okay actually.

Spoiler

Brexit happened.
Boris Johnson's the Prime Minister
The EU are sabre rattling providing the Brexiteer with 'redemption sauce' for their Brexit fry up...

...
Yay Britain.
What is there to complain about?