MAGA Supporter Arrested Yards From Capitol With Gun, Ammo, ‘Stop the Steal’ Paperwork

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  1. maxLiberal

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    who'd you vote for in the last 5 Pres. elections?
     
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    Before I realized that voting is a joke and that I got played by a system that isn't worth participating in, I voted for the following presidents: Kerry (2004), Obama (2008 ), Johnson (2012), Trump (2016 & 2020).

    I've evolved from being a Democrat, to a Libertarian, to a Republican, to now just understanding that the elites get what they want no matter what. The 2000 election should have been the first sign for me. The rise in government control after 9/11 was another. The bailouts of 2008 were yet another.

    The 2020 election is a more recent sign, but this Gamestop Wall Street fiasco is the most recent one.

    Our markets are rigged, our elections are rigged, and our media colludes with the government. I'm sure some people will call me Trumpian for that, but there was a time when skepticism toward government was more of a leftist thing. Noam Chomsky is a good example of someone who heavily criticized what is often referred to as the Deep State. People don't like that term nowadays, but bureaucratic state is another term for it.

    In short, the most powerful people in this system aren't elected. They're high officials, lobbyists, and board members of megacorporations. Those are the people making the real decisions. You can vote however you like, but it's like pissing in the wind.
     
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    I’m actually a vegetarian. :) Your food supply is heavily dependent on access to firearms. I fear the ignorance such as is demonstrated in this thread by those whose opinions on firearms are purely emotion driven will lead to suffering for everyone. And suffering most of all by the emotional ignorant. I don’t want to see you starve so I recommend you educate yourself a bit on practical use of firearms. It may save the life of yourself and those you love.
     
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    you're rather young and dejected, I can appreciate such consternation and thx for the reply. don't worry, we're screwed no matter what.
    I'd say recent elections prove voting does count and the differences are stark, we just flipped from full on NAZIS to back to imperfect.
    yes, Dems really suck, but using that as an excuse to jump out of the slowly sinking boat into sharky waters ain't the solution.
    Noam was talking about factions like those involved in the '60s assassinations and the mic / black ops, not Keystone Cop BS now.
    if these last decades have been a rough ride for you, buckle up, cos you ain't seen nuthin' yet and you better chose the winners.
    sadly, in your lifetime you will not be a super happy camper, try and leave our country with a chance at survival like the rest of us are.
     
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    if guns were all gone from the planet, we'd still eat well.
     
  6. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You asked: "who runs around living their lives obsessed with guns / ammo and the fear of some of them being restricted?"

    The Bill of Rights is not a pick-and-chose document. Without the 2nd Amendment, all the others are endangered by tyrants, foreign and domestic, who would strip us of our other Rights.

    When I joined the US Army over 50 years ago I swore to defend the Constitution against all its enemies, foreign and domestic. I do not recall an "Expiration date" in that oath so I regard all of our Rights as equally important.

    I've also spent time in Communist countries and lived among people who have lost their freedoms incrementally. I was told over and over again that Americans take their freedoms for granted and will gradually lose all of them so I regard an attack on one of our Rights as an attack on all of them.

    The older you get, the more frequently you see that people who are wiling to sacrifice their freedoms for the promises of security end up with neither.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please explain how serial numbers could be stamped / engraved on each round of ammunition and what would be accomplished.
    What's the end benefit?

    Thanks,
     
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    No you wouldn’t. Please educate yourself. If guns were gone from the planet only the physically strongest would survive—and only a few of them.
     
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    really? how come it was mostly these gun nut types who rampage our Capitols and gun up in illegal militias and scream hate everywhere they can about their freedumbs while impinging on rights from those they don't like? where have the gunnies been the last 4yrs as tyranny ran roughshod over Lady Liberty and full on NAZIS had their way with her until finally fairly voted off her ass? how come I got your fellow Rangers swearing to get me someday just cos I talk to them like I am here? why does the party of hate seek total domination forever? see Newt and Atwater c1985 please don't mention our Constitution that has been used as toilet paper every time rightys get a chance. lol yeah, lets talk about tyranny!
     
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    cool, Liberals win again lol I'm in!
     
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    You are not a liberal. You would be first to starve because you least understand how food is produced and protected. Some liberals would survive, but you don’t even know what a liberal is. If you did you would not be making the statements you do about personal freedoms in the same posts you claim to be liberal.
     
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    You make a very eloquent argument, with just the right amount of pathos and some nice red-scare added in. You would be surprised that I agree with you to a point.

    Since the Bill of Rights, according to your great wisdom, is not a pick-and-choose document and since the firearms of the day consisted almost exclusively of the flintlock, then being a strict constitutionalist, surely you will agree with me that the 2nd amendment absolutely guarantees all US-citizens the right to carry a flintlock, which carries one bullet in the chamber and requires one minute to reload, in order to be prepared to join a militia should the Republic need to be defended from without!

    Therefore, I Statistik J. Hengst am formally calling for a complete and total bigly ban on all modern firearms until we can all figure out the hell what is going on.

    Enjoy your flintlock.

    One more question: if the bill of rights is not a pick-and-choose document, does that same view of yours also apply to the US Constitution?
     
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    you're right, I'm not a Liberal, I'm THE Liberal on this planet and we're always ahead of the game we prowl. we're ok with vegetarianism.
     
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    By now you must be familiar with the "Strawman fallacy" that your Post exemplifies.

    Of all the film footage I've seen of the Capitol riot, I didn't see a single rioter brandishing a firearm. The only killing by firearm during that incident was a Capitol policeman shooting a White rioter.

    I'm over 70 years old and have yet to meet any of the crazed gun nut types, "NAZIS", "Rangers" or other fictitious MSM creations you're describing so I must wonder where you're getting your information.

    Why are you ranting and raving to me about "rightys" when I've been voting Independent/Libertarian for decades?

    Finally, I have every right to support the entire Bill of Rights since I took an oath to do so and served my country in a distant hell-hole probably before you were born.

    Your irrational fear of firearms (hoplophobia) is no excuse to eviscerate the 2nd Amendment on which the others are dependent.

    Thanks,
     
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    And man oh man can we sip them lattes.
     
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    There is nothing liberal about you. And in this exchange you are advocating for conservatism. You are merely a pawn in the game. The only reason you are in front (ahead) is so you can be sacrificed for the good of your masters.
     
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    this just shows you don't know Liberalism lol YES! we are the true c/Conservatives!
     
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    Yes! You are a true authoritarian! Something we can agree on. But you are not at all liberal because liberal is the antithesis of authoritarian.
     
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    no need for straws
    the US Veterans who assaulted me a month ago for expressing my rights swore to uphold the same things you and others did yet want me dead for doing exactly those freedom thingys lol rightys do not care about laws or our Constitution, they just hide behind them to safely lob grenades at their Patriotic enemies. The Mob was firearmed, they mostly knew better than to flash them and they're SO lucky only 1 of them got blown the hell away. btw, Libertarianism is for rightys who are so mad at boogeymen even the insane hate party isn't nasty enuf for them lol
     
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    you'd be correct if we hadn't been forced by today's NAZIS to become their overbearing parents.
     
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    Not in D.C. Your second amendment right entitles you to own a gun. It doesn't say that the State (or in this case, the District) can't regulate it.
     
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    Nowhere in the 2nd Amendment is it stated what type of "arms" one has the right to bear.

    At the time the flintlock used by the military was identical in every way to the arms citizens had the right to own.

    Using your own logic, citizens had the right to carry the same type of firearm as the military then and therefore they have the same right, today.
     
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    Your kind have been authoritarian since before Nazis existed. That’s partly what makes you a conservative. You don’t want to progress past your authoritarianism. Only weak pathetic people are forced to do anything by “Nazis” in today’s world. It’s just an excuse to cling to your conservative authoritarian ways.
     
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    please stop trying to tell Libs who / what we are when you obviously have 0 clue. we're for fairness and fun, nothing else is done.
     
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    I am a liberal. You are not. Please stop misrepresenting liberalism. You are just a run of the mill authoritarian that doesn’t like to admit it.
     

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