What is white culture?

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  1. FatBack

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    So is racism based on a fiction?
     
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    When people say "black culture", they seem to mean "the culture of American blacks", so I'm guessing "white culture" would be "the culture of American whites", whatever that might be.

    I very rarely hear people use the expression "black culture", presumably precisely because there is no such identifiable thing world-wide.
     
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    Of course! That's why racists are the least educated people you will ever encounter. It's also why gullible people are the extreme right's favorite target audience to spread their nonsense.
     
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    Yes, lets continue pretending...lets pretend racism only is found on the right.
    Well, here you have it folks, Golem has cured racism, it cant be real!
     
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    There might be racism on the left but, in this country, organized white supremacist movements only exist on the right.

    Racism is most definitely real. The fact that it's based on fiction doesn't make it less real. Just like the fact that large scale fraud in the last elections didn't exist, doesn't make the January 6 terrorist insurrection led by Trump any less real. I'm sure you were trying really really hard to make some sort of point. Unfortunately, you failed. Next time you might want to make sure you actually have a point before posting.
     
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    In my little town we have the usual pizza chains, but we do have one opened by Sicilian immigrants over 40 years ago and their pizzas and subs are to die for. Over the years they've opened 5 other locations in a 20 mile radius, one of those American immigrant success stories.
     
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    I think that's a good question--and hard to answer. There is the usual notion of White culture as being hard working and having Christian ethics. But that's not something limited to or more dominant in one culture. What we tend to do is stereotype other groups, focusing on negatives. It might be easier to make a list of the differences we see.
     
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    Is cajun culture white, though? I thought they spoke some kind of non-white language, like French.
     
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    Might be? LOL
    You do just fine at making my point for me, fear the boogyman and ignore the one under your bed.
     
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    Agree. It's just a way of saying "white race" without using the word, "race."
     
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    Yall need to set Merriam Webster straight, take note of the primary definition.

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    Dictionaries are complied by people who can be wrong, and Merriam Webster is wrong in this case. The definition would be correct if the term, "ethnic" was used rather than "racial."
     
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    Well, leave him a review of your opinion, I'm sure he will consider it.
     
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    MODERN white culture started with the Renaissance. It worked in two directions...it introduced Europe to the Far East and that made a comparison of cultures possible but it also, by trade, unified the region and historically shaped parts of what is now "Europe" via the establishment of banks, wider trade, wider distribution of more wealth.
    It also set the stage for rivalry, wars and a set of values centered around the wealth. The wealth eventually created the white cultural expression of beliefs (often religious) in art, in literature and in music...mostly because the objects created actually looked to have white traits. A lot of that was because there weren't that many people of any other culture around ...some found their small way into paintings and literature but the rhythms of Africa and the Southern hemisphere didn't exist.
    I think culture is shaped by geography, wars, possibility of transport distance (which set apart the black from the white cultures) and after a while it grows upon itself to take a shape.
    Perhaps white culture is just "what is familiar" if you are white.
     
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    Yes, it's a little different than traditional french, called cajun french. Cajun people are white.
     
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    I generally agree. There is no all encompassing white culture that covers all white skinned peoples. There are ethnic cultures and in the US, there is definitely an American white culture, which may be what the OP is referring to, although even then that can be broken down by the various white people who settled in the US.

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    I'm right on the edge of Spanish Caribbean, most just call us Florida Crackers or Rednecks. There is certainly a culture we dont share with other whites, like the Yankees and visa verca.
     
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    Apparently, either preserving the cultural heritage for distant future generations wasn't as big of a part of my ancient cultural heritage as it was for some others, or some others (perhaps Roman) were more successful at erasing parts of it. So yes, some 'liscense' must necessarily be taken to fill in the gaps, at least until someone creates a time machine. I personally think the gaps have been filled in quite well here :)
     
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    It's pretty obvious that there is a big cultural difference between southerners and New Englanders.
     
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    Cajun people were originally French who went to settle SE Canada, which was then taken over by the British in the early 18th century and eventually forced out , headed south and ended up in the swamps of La.

    https://www.nps.gov/jela/learn/hist...ry begins in,prospered as farmers and fishers.

    I love their dancing and music...fiddle and accordian. I tried once to learn to dance Cajun but gave up. It was very popular in the UK a few years ago, special clubs started up to cope with demand.
     
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    There is no such thing as "white culture" in Europe, so White North Americans should look elsewhere for their "white" culture. I am Danish, and not in the American way where they'll call themselves some ethnicity simply because one of their distant ancestors were that, but an actual Dane living in Denmark, speaking Danish and living in a Danish culture (and having a BA in history which helps with the cultural appreciation bit).

    Fetishing some hyper-idealized version of "viking" aesthetic, and presenting that as "white" history.... makes me vomit, tbh. To hear foreigners pretending that their culture has anything to do with mine, simply because they've deluded themselves into thinking having the same skin color means "we" have the same history? Seriously, if you believe in that... fine, but don't present it to real Scandinavians and expect to have your factless beliefs respected as if we're cultural "equals" to you. That may sound as if I'm disrespecting you, but really it's just me and other Europeans to keep being disrespected by White Americans who think "we" are the same people as them. I get your need to feel part of something, but let me explain why "you're doing it wrong".

    This is like the "We wuz kangs" meme, where ignorant black Americans will pretend that "their" ancestors were.... Nubians, instead of West Africans. Because they're apparantly ashamed of their Western African heritage (something they've been told to be by their past white overlords, btw). Americans should value their own American culture, and not try and pretend that they are, or are a part of, something they're not. Your ancestors left your old cultures behind. You are not us anymore. Your ancestors left our tribes behind, our tribes were not "whites", just like Africa's tribes were not "blacks". If you want to make up your own tribes called "whites", instead of the more sane choice of cultivating a new tribe called "American", do that.

    And all "viking"-like music is not a representation of "white culture". It's at worst LARP'ing, at best a show of respekt for the past. It isn't a show of what "real" Scandinavian (or German) is. It's a fantasy version... not neccesarily bad because as long as you know you're in a fantasy, you can wake up. The problem is when you don't want to wake up. Culture is something that is ALIVE, not some feel-good, inspirational YouTube music video with goofy customes and neo-pagan aesthestic, not about dreaming about long dead pagan seafarers. That's not your culture, it's not even my culture, it's my people's past. Danish culture, Scandinavian culture generally, isn't about Vikings. That's our distant past and just something that attracts tourists, it has got nothing to do with our present day for hundreds of years now. Nor should it, Viking Age society is definitely worse than present day Denmark's, fantasy movie tropes about Vikings notwithstanding.

    Being part of a nation, part of a tribe, IS extremely important. But you're pining for membership of the wrong nation, dude. You're pining for a past that was your ancestor's, a past that died. You are not your ancestors, you are not a "Viking". When your ancestors arrived as migrants in the US, even they were not Vikings for that matter, and when their first child was born that child was not part of our ethnic groups anymore. Respect your real family history, your true roots which are those that landed on American shores and ended up with you. Your ancestors cut their ties with our European roots by abandoning their language and culture and became something new, a new tribe. You are NOT Scandinavian, German, Irish, etc. if you are a "White American". Europeans are not "white people", that is applying a uniquely American idea (that of race, which doesn't exist) to our cultures, our ethnicities/tribes. White, Black... those were ideas of race made up by pseudo-scientists. Be proud of those of your ancestors who first came to North America, and thus turned into a new tribe: Americans. You still have a connection to Irish, Scandinavian, etc. history... but culture is a living thing.

    You're not part of a "lesser" culture just because your new tribe, your new cultural identity is newer. This is something I've seen and heard from way too many Americans, both left and right-wingers, saying "Oh, we don't even have a culture". Stop that nonsense and be proud of who you ARE, instead of seeking pride in some romanticized version of you wish you were. Sincerely, all the best to you as an American. If you detect anger in this post, it's not because I simply hate you or your beliefs, but because I genuinely think you demean yourself by wanting to believe in a fantasy version of a culture you are not part of - instead of taking pride in the culture you ARE part of. And I hate to see people think less of themselves for - what I consider to be - silly reasons.
     
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    White Culture = working hard and not expecting freebies and EARNING what you have , not begging for handouts because you are sad about the events of hundreds of years ago. Maybe you guys should take a queue form Asian-Americans huh? They are doing better than whites and you don't even know they exist because they aren't crying about oppression every 5 seconds
     

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