“These Teacher Unions Are Out Of CONTROL”

Nice deflection, but not persuasive.

 

When the question put by you is "see which will open first" then, yes, who the owner is does matter. Now to the point you're poorly making teachers are still the more important. How about this. Your grocery worker can't go to work because they have to stay home to take care of their kids because the schools are closed but the grocery store will still be open because it's basically unskilled labor. It will be a revolving door of workers.

 

You don't seem to understand. They are PUBLIC employees meaning they need zero protection from their employers unlike PRIVATE employees. All the laws will be followed for PUBLIC employees and always have been.

 

Illinois education unions didn't get anything even slightly spectacular.

And, blaming one side of a negotiation for the final result is RIDICULOUS!!


The catch for school administrations (and the legislatures that fund them) is that they have to staff their schools.

And, this is capitalism. They aren't going to manage that if they don't make reasonable offers.

In any occupation, there will be some number of employees who will hang around because the job is nearby, or they really like the job and don't mind being screwed a little bit. or whatever.

But over time, if a school district or a state makes crappy compensation and job description offers, they aren't going to be fully staffed with quality teachers.

 

Hilarious!!

Where the heck did you get THAT bit of crazy?

 

The health insurance and pensions are what are driving the state to bankruptcy. And the problem with public sector unions is that there is only one side.

 

My mother and sister were very top Bureaucrats for the State of California. I grew up just outside of Sacramento. I worked as a student intern for a Summer in MediCal offices and got to witness the insanity first hand of the non-working workers, huge budget spends because you must use it or lose it, inability to fire ridiculous abusive bureaucrats, and the benefits that were mind blowing even for the Sacramento Bee so they wrote a whole story on my mom's insane retirement path and package.

I have forgotten more than you will ever know on the topic.

 

Remember Q thinks school shooting victims are faking it

 

This is pretty ****ed up.

 

That's okay since you are not the secretary of labor.

 

No, on the other hand you don't seem to understand. They, like other employees should and do have a right to bargain for the terms and conditions of their employment.

 

Looking at NY in this example is like telling people to model the Browns when running a team....

 

No, I am not, but FDR's point still stands.

 

His point is merely an opinion and duly noted; I think his opinion was wrong and as evidenced by the fact in today's world many employees employed in the public sector are unionized.

 

oh, so the right only likes farmers that support Trump

 

They are not bargaining. They are dictating as they are the biggest donor to the ruling party in many states. They are an abomination and our children are paying the price.

 

Yah I bet those white cops in Seattle feel super protected by the people who want to lay them off regardless of seniority.

 

I work for a public employee union and people get fired all the time. Maybe things have changed since the 40s?

 

Oh please. Are you saying they do not have the right to donate to the party/candidate of their choice? YOu are just anti-union, why don't you publicly admit it.

Tell me, just how are the children paying the price?

 

Yes they are, to our detriment.

 

You realize the Communists took over and did that? lol

Now do the teachers.

 

Good thing they have a union right?

 

Nobody that has dealt with unions believes they "get fired all the time" lol

 

Nope. They have abused the citizens.

 

I see it all the time.