Mitt Romney predicts Donald Trump will win 2024 Republican nomination if he runs again

Well tens of GOP voters...

What cost the GOP the house and the Senate wasn't Trump it was the complete refusal of the GOP establishment to cooperate with Trump on much of anything other than judges.

 

The FISA warrants were illegal. The Deep State felons who contrived to get them have not been punished.

The Deep State a The Lawless State.

"The investigation of something as serious as official criminal activity must be carried out with the appearance of impartiality, so that the public can be assured that, whatever the outcome of the investigation, the matter is settled. And the Justice Department, for several reasons, is not in a position to give this appearance of impartiality, no matter what the integrity of its present officials. First the FBI is a part of the Justice Department, and there is at least implied collusion. Second, the Justice Department has in the past acknowledged that the CIA was above the law: there was an agreement between the CIA and the Justice Department that if the CIA General Counsel decided that a prosecution would require the release of classified information the charges would be dropped. Third, the Justice Department is currently representing intelligence officials who are being sued for damages in civil court—a conflict of interest. And finally, no matter how sincerely and attorney general may want to prosecute, there will be problems of maintaining loyalty and morale within the department among officials who may, if only by lack of vigilance, have been implicated by the illegality under investigation."THE LAWLESS STATE, The Crimes of the U.S. Intelligence Agencies, Morton H. Halperin, Jerry J. Bermin, Robert L. Borosage, and Christine M. Marwick, Penguin Books, NY, 1977. p.275.

Was that kind of official lawlessness justified to get rid of Trump?

 

Only if you are his judge and jury.

 

Conmen? Oh. You mean politicians.

 

I'm not a courtroom judge or a jury and this is not a court of law. I'm also not ignorant, blind, deaf or dumb. The number of crimes this demented psychopath has committed, especially crimes against humanity and crimes against the Constitution is staggering.

 

That was way before there ever was a Patriot Act. I have no clue what relevance this has with FISA warrants. You say they were illegal, so prove that.

 

my final statement rings true

accuse others of doing exactly what they are doing themselves

 

There's nothing new about that, small spoiled children have been doing it for centuries. When you grow up- IF you mature and develop character, you stop that rationalizing and accept responsibility for what you do..
Right now, the same democrats that called Kavanaugh every dirt name they could think of are ignoring far more valid reports of what Cuomo is accused. of. Per one headline- "The democratic silence is deafening"..
No it's not- it's normal.

Now I'm not going to spend my time gathering evidence of what everyone really know is an attempt to force the guilty to confess, because they never will. The capacity to deny is as strong as the capacity to abuse- so such people are what they are; I give them zero cred and zero consideration. They are an annoyance, like a buzzing horsefly- ot a voice to be heard.

 

That is just another typical empty partisan political slur. Our political parties need smarter advisors and tactics - stat.

 

Secret courts such as FISA violate the Constitution in many ways. Secret courts are a hallmark of banana republics.

 

Yeah if you're ignorant, blind, deaf or dumb or any combination. The overwhelming evidence is available on many, many videos and other recordings and documents. I'm no "partisan", for me political parties are no more than group-think cults.

 

Why should I have to prove that the FISA warrants were illegal?

Is the Patriot Act supposed to have been a reform?

 

Flame bait.
But the part about the political parties is spot on.

 

What would you call it when one refuses to acknowledge the overwhelming evidence (readily available on multiple platforms) confirming that multiple heinous crimes were committed by Donald Trump?

"It is what it is" - Donald Trump

 

Well actually nil but you see what you wish to see, as do I.

 

I see reality, you see what you wish to see as you admit. I'm not you, don't apply YOUR issues on me.

 

You see orange man bad. I see reality.

 

I protested against the Patriot Act way back in the early 00s, but in spite of that, it went into effect anyway. If it violates the Constitution, I'm sure someone would have put it on the path to place it before SCOTUS long before now.

 

Yes, the Patriot Act was indeed quite controversial, or have you forgotten that?

 

What makes you so sure? There are literally thousands maybe tens of thousands of unconstitutional laws that have never seen a courtroom, never mind SCOTUS.

 

Who do you think there was left for Trump to win over or for Biden to lose? The turnout in 2020 was massive. Conservative-leaning folk turned out for Trump and the GOP, much more so than in 2016, and liberal-leaning folk turned out for Biden and the Dems, vastly more so than in 2016.

 

Well, this isn't much of a Nostradomas like prediction. He Probabably will win the nomination IF he runs, but its a Big If. I think he will instead try to endorse someone from his family

 

perfect example of "spin"

the thread topic was about romney and trump, with romney predicting trump will get nominated..

now the topic is being spun to kavanaugh and cuomo..

and using the word character and trump is the same sentence is even more spin

 

Your point was "accuse others of doing exactly what they are doing themselves"
You seem to have no idea of what an analogy is, or describing the methodology that lies behind things to illustrate truth.

We don't have any dem politicians who can be used to illustrate character- and damn few members of today's press, especially those associated with the MSM networks.
You have to understand it before you can have it. Faking the idea that you have character is BS, attempting to lift yourself to a respectable level by tearing others down-lowering the bar, inverting the scale. Exactly what we keep seeing from the left. That's not character- that's cowardice and weakness. People make themselves what they are.

 

I do not think the Patriot Act was intended to be a reform.
Expanding the size and power of Big Government is not, IMO, reform.