“On Jan 6 came the white supremacists. Now comes the whitewash”

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    archives Well-Known Member

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    “FBI Director Christopher A. Wray, appearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee Tuesday to answer questions about the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, told the lawmakers what should be obvious to all: that “militia violent extremists” and “racially motivated extremists” were behind the insurrection, and that there is no evidence of “fake Trump supporters” or “antifa” having any role in the attack, as Republican officials have suggested. In general, the Trump-appointed Wray testified, white supremacists are the “biggest chunk” of the domestic terrorism threat and “the most lethal.”

    “But to hear the Republicans tell it, the country is besieged by left-wing anarchists.”

    “There has been 280 arrests as a result of the Jan. 6 attack, compared to more than 1,000 arrests as a result of riots just in Portland last year,” argued Sen. Chuck Grassley as if violence tied to last summer’s racial justice protests in Oregon is the same as an attack on the U.S. seat of government to overturn the election”

    Sen. Marsha Blackburn wanted to make sure the FBI was “tracking extremist groups like antifa or other radicalism that are connected to violence in cities across the country.”

    Sen. Ted Cruz proclaimed that “we have seen massive rioting and violence as extremists, many of them leftist extremists, took to the streets,” part of an “ongoing pattern of domestic terrorism.”

    “Sen. John Cornyn took issue with “the narrative” of who was involved on Jan. 6 — and again suggested that anarchists played a role.”

    “In short, Republicans want to turn the Capitol insurrection commission into an antifa commission — and to paint over the events of Jan. 6 with a coat of false equivalencies.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...mes-whitewash/

    It is no surprise here, it appears pretty obvious the last thing Mitch and the right want is a 9/11-style commission to probe the events of January 6th.

    The bigger question becomes why?
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Both sides should just own up and say "yes the jan 6th riot was bad, and so were the 50something riots by the left in the same year"
    DONE
     
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    archives Well-Known Member

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    Which is the path the GOP prefer, however, it is promoting a false paradigm, the two aren’t the same, January 6th was a direct attack on the U.S. seat of government to overturn an election, nothing this summer, or even since the British invaded, is comparable
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well I think thats subjective. Some people might think government officials lives matter more than regular ole citizens but I think the owners of burned down small businesses would disagree.
     
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    Wray made it clear that the FBI was looking into BOTH.
     
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    No matter how hard you try no one who matters buys this nonsense. The so called "riots" were a few days in the summer. And all the of destruction was caused by proud boys.
     
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    The answer is S I M P L E ! Lying "Ted" BLackburn, Cronyn, and Trump want to deflect the fact that Trumpian inspired insurrectionists turned into terrorists and attacked our United States of America Capitol causing directly and indirectly death and destruction.

    Lying "Ted" has been on the Tour of the Lying Scum touring that famous river in Egypt.
     
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    Both sides are cleary wrong and this and spreading narratives that they WISH to spread.

    It is true that ANTIFA had little to do with the riot in the capitol, there is simply no evidence to the conspiracy theory that they were the ones behind it or even involved.

    On the other hand it is also fact that no evidence exists to claim that the riot was the act of white supremacists or white supremacy in general.
    From what evidence I have seen so far they have identified TWO people who have a stgrong connection to white supremacy in their background. In a crowd that size two is insignificant. The mob who rioted in the capitol seems to have been made up of a mess of different poeple. The shaman guy in the horned helmet may have been a trump supporter but was really overall a mindless ass clown. The ******bags in pelosis office and so on were pretty similar just not as bizarre. One overlooked fact is the woman who was shot was from california and had recently lost her business due to covid restrictions. It is reasonable to suspect many of the rioters were similar people angry and out of work at the worthless and draconian measures of largely democrat governors and local governments. Yes there were also probably a few white supremacists and hardcore trump supporters and even conspiracy theory loons.

    As to comparing it to the portland riots the comparison of people arrested is a false equicelance. The BLM/ANTIFA riots were wide spread across the nation, much larger and better organized. But just as reprehensible as their goal was to overthrow government just like the rioters in the capitol. They were more succesful in seattle and potland and other cities.So of course more arrests would be made. ANTIFA and BLM are seperate organizations but work together for common interest. They riot loot and pillage and overthrow democracy. The are both communist organizations with little interest in anarchy as so many claim.

    Both sides need to own their **** and recognize the inherent evil of those who rioted all last year in city after city and the bastards who rioted in DC.
     
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    A non issue.

    The riot was simply a riot. Not even a big issue anymore.

    Old news, long since refuted as an "insurrection" LOL.

    No one charged with insurrection.

    A big nothing burger.
     
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    Not quite accurate, as Wray testified, groups as the proud boys and oath takers have been identified by the FBI as a major component of the assault on the Capital, more than just “two people.”

    In addition, none of violent events of the summer ever threatened any Local or State Gov’t, jeopardized the Government from carrying out its Constitutional responsibilities, nor sought as their goal to overturn a certified national election. Apples and Oranges

    Which all comes back to original question, why is the right against a 9/11-style commission to probe the events of January 6th? Why are they trying to create a false paradigm? It was a once in a Century event, wouldn’t the logical conclusion be to find out exactly why and how it happened?
     
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    Only if you consider an attack on the U.S. seat of government aimed at overturning a national election not “a big issue”
     
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    “On Jan 6 came the white supremacists. Now comes the whitewash”

    White supremacists are the best supremacists. Have you seen any black supremacists? No, because they know better. /sarc
     
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    Not really considering the last time the US Capitol was invaded was during the War of 1812, going to be tough finding any event of the summer that is comparable to that
     
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    You mean with real gunfire and everything!!!!!! I suspect you see the one in 2021 as the same, right?
     
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    It wasn't.

    It was a small riot.
     
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    Left wing riots have done billions of dollars worth of damage across the US in the last year, BILLIONS.

    Can you please acknowledge this simple and obvious fact?

    If left wing rioters doing billions of dollars worth of damage to cities all across the country isn't "the country besieged by left-wing anarchists", then what the hell is it?
     
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    Are you a "nationalist?" If so, I don't see how you find an equivalency between a Portland Court building or a Seattle Police Precinct Station with the Capitol building of the United States? That is not to say that the criminals who attacked each of them should not be brought to justice.
     
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    No single riot equals what happened in DC, except maybe CHAZ. But no one is talking about a single riot. It’s the collective damage, destruction, death and injuries that BLM and ANTIFA have done all of last year, that many Democrat leaders dismissed as “mostly peaceful” or people just expressing themselves. The thing is NO ONE has justified the DC riot. Everyone wants them brought to justice. On the other hand, our VP went out of her way to help rioters and criminals get bailed out....because feelings. CNN even called them peaceful as fires burned in the background.
     
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    They were a mix of different peoples with different motivations, from the left, similar to the rest of the country.
     
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    Quite false.

    The violent eventa of the past summert did more than threaten local government they OVERTHREW local government in Portland, Seattle and elsewhere. Look up the multiple CHAZ autonymous zones which were by definition open rebellion and overthrow of government. Not apples and oranges at all. Your spin is a failure.

    No one otrher than two individuals has been identified as white superemacists on jan 6 and that is a fact.
     
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    Because it's a colossal waste of time? Everyone knows what happened. If you're going to probe 'domestic terrorism' then BLM/Antifa have to be top of the list.
     
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    Could even say it wasn't even a riot, more like mostly peaceful vandalism. I didn't see any fires set. The idiots who went into various offices didn't trash them as far as saw in videos. In fact most videos showed them acting more like tourists peacefully walking the halls.
     
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    This is incorrect. VERY incorrect.

    It was far more than a riot. It was an armed insurrection that resulted in:
    1.) trespassing on federal property
    2.) damage to and looting of federal property
    3.) the deaths and injuries of Capitol Hill police
    4.) the interruption of the US Congress' constitutionally mandated counting of the electoral votes for president

    The word insurrection may or may not be on the indictments, but rather, there are numerous charges, all of which bring jail-time with them.

    People who actually read the Constitution and US Law already know this.

    Those who don't try to play the armed insurrection down. I will not let this happen.

    You will not get a chance to whitewash history. It is what it is and there is abundant video, audio and print evidence to back up everything I just wrote.
     
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    I see the difference.

    It's like a Hunger Games thing, right? It only matters when the beautiful people in The Capitol feel threatened.

    The riots and mayhem is the dirtier districts are of no concern as long as they don't become bothersome to the federal elites.
     
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    I laughed...thanks.
     
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