Biden tells NASA engineer Indian-Americans are ‘taking over the country’

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  1. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Isolated is probably better than putting them in with people who are not parents. Their parents put them in danger when they let coyotes take control. Either choice is immoral. The legality is questionable given the options as is calling it torture.
     
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    You're talking about Venezuela, not the U.S.
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sure you didn't take your hero's statement that way, but it was.
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I read his eulogy of former KKK Grand Cyclops Robert C. Byrd, does that count.
     
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    If you say so
     
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    Trump telling people to go back to where they came from (to actual US citizens because they weren't white):

    "Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.”
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...AhAC&usg=AOvVaw13AyHAH49xmxL9fS0wxGZV&ampcf=1

    And we have;"Go back to where you came from" is a racial insult which is used in many different countries, and it is mainly used to target immigrants and/or ethnic groups whose members are falsely considered immigrants"

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...MwBHoECAMQAg&usg=AOvVaw3YHUAWMNfjKRNRcAA3ABkh
     
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    "Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.”

    was said in regards to illegal aliens and violent criminals from failed authoritarian collectivist states coming here because they ruined theirs and ran out of freebees. A stark contrast to legal immigrants coming here though proper channels with education and advanced skills.

    ...not that there's a chance in hell you'll ever recognize the difference where the bad orange man is concerned...

    Somewhere in this false equivalency of comparing skilled Indian migrants to South American criminal alien economic refugees and refusing to see a difference is what some might consider racism... I hope its not because 'they both have darker skin and so they must be the same'...? I don't suppose you happen to know how many astrophysicists or software engineers were denied entry to or deported from our southern border...?
     
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    So many trip ups; so little time.
     
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    No!!!

    ...“"torture” means an act committed by a person acting under the color of law specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical control;
    18 U.S. Code § 2340
    Now do you understand that the Trump policy was torture? Please responnd.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    If I showed you, right here and now, that it is torture.... would you admit it? Or would I just be wasting my time because you'll deny it regardless of any evidence I present?
     
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    No, I do not, not in the least.... not even close. Though I am confused (or I missed your point): I thought you said it was torture to separate parents (real or faux) from their children.
     
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    And now President Biden releases test positive COVID infected border jumpers in to U.S. to spread a deadly virus! Democrats are certainly a enigma to be sure..

    I guess the danger of COVID has great diminished concerning border crossing and the infected super spreaders coming across now with Biden as President..
     
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    Well cages compared to Wanton Endangerment, I'll take the cage approach! Letting infected illegals in to the U.S. should be an impeachable offence.. I know damn well it would have been for the last President!!
     
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    No it wasn't! Trump said it towards Representatives Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and Ayanna Pressley . A clear racist statement
     
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    Isolate them? Dear God! I had no idea Trump did that. You're telling me that for days... months... years... Even, several hundreds of them, to the day Trump left office; some of them were being kept "isolated"? That really IS torture. I think that would be too harsh for anybody except the most dangerous criminals. But a child....

    Your mind works in very odd ways if you think that's somehow "excusable". How can you support a sociopath that allows something like that to happen for years on his watch?
     
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    When the parents can't be found, there are not any options except to keep them locked up.
    Not a matter of being excusable. It is a matter of options. There are no good options when children are brought across the border without their parents or it cannot easily be determined who are their parents. Those that do come across the border with the parents must either be locked up with adults or the adults are set free with their children. The coyotes take advantage of the situation just like they are taking advantage of the situation now.

    You are long on complaints, but short on solutions.
     
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    Exactly my thoughts. We have never been closer to becoming a "Venezuela" than during the Trump administration. The only difference is that when Hugo Chavez sought for Congress, the Courts and mobs to decide who would be President, instead of the will of the people; succeeded. Trump failed in his attempts to do that. Though not by much. Of course, Chavez' VP was Maduro. And Trump's was Pence, who let him down at the very last minute that his plan was to come to fruition.
     
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    What are you confused about? Trump did torture children by separating them from their parents. Over a thousand them for over a year. Hundreds of them even to the last day of his Presidency. And even though the Biden administration is making a strong effort to reunite the last of them, there are still many who haven't seen their parents in years.

    So what is your confusion? Only a sociopath would enact a policy to torture children this way. How can anybody still support this guy?

    It's inevitable that Trump will go to prison for who-knows-which of his many crimes. Maybe not all. But this country can never (and should never) be healed until he pays for this particular one. And I would look further into the case of that child who had been separated from his parents and died in a van in the desert while in custody of ICE. Even though it is stated in the US code that the death penalty might be a possible consequence if this can be proven in courts to be a direct result of the torture policy, but I think life in prison would be more appropriate.
     
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    What did he say that suggests 'picking on'? Indeed, he acknowledged Indian-Americans for their success and advancements in specific fields, but how is that translated into 'picking on'? For a group (that I can only assume you belong to) that is critical of political correctness, you certainly seem to want to jump on whatever you think is politically incorrect.
     
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    No idea what you're talking about. By the fact that you show no references I must assume there is some wingnut talking point you heard from Tucker Carlson... or one of those wingnuts. But, as far as I know, being infected with COVID is not a crime. Even though not enforcing a mask mandate or other measures, knowing that this will cost lives, might (arguably) be... Who knows...
     
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    Thanks, you explained your position clearly and now I understand. To review your assertions: Trump is committing torture by separating children from their parents as illegal aliens in accordance with federal law, but a judge in no way is committing torture when he separates a convicted bank robber from his children. Got it. Clear as water; logical as mud.
     
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    I'm not talking about either of those. focus!
     
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    It appears that you have no idea what you are talking about.
     
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    After Border Patrol release, asylum-seekers test positive for Covid in Brownsville, Texas
    A number of migrants seeking asylum and released by Border Patrol have tested positive to Covid-19 tests in Brownsville, Texas. Some plan to continue their journey to other cities and states.

    NBC news
    March 2, 2021, 1:08 PM MST
    By Damià Bonmatí, Noticias Telemundo Investiga and Martha Alicia López
    Lets just take this as an example, with a grain of salt or hydroxychloroquin :)

    And lets take the percentage of those tested in this instance! So with the CDC number of 6.3 percent I personally am more concerned with the infected entering the country unabated by this administration.. Either way, I'm sure after all the post you have made about JUST A MASK that this must be a really big concern and effecting your life, right!

    So what is your President doing to contain this horrid spread of COVID?
     
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    He caught himself in another gaffe, unlike the 7-11 video I posted.
     

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