Would you republicans vote for a $12 minimum wage?

Well, technically, it's not private because in order for it to be private a private group, or enterprise, or individual, would have to be it's owner, which is not the case. The only thing that can be said with certainty is that no one owns it, but the building it sits in is owned by the federal government, and The Federal Reserve was created in 1913 by the Federal Reserve Act to serve as the nation's central bank. The Board of Governors in Washington, D.C., is an agency of the federal government and reports to and is directly accountable to the Congress.

The Federal Reserve derives its authority from the Congress, which created the System in 1913 with the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act. (--FR website)

So, this idea it is 'private' is not quite right, though it operates autonomously, but the SCOTUS operates autonomously, as well, so 'autonomous' doesn't equal 'private'.

Correct is to say it is an agency of the federal government, so, you know the old saying, if it walks like a duck..........etc., it's a duck.

 

Yes. I have the inherent right to exchange my labor for pay, or to refuse to.

'"Left melts down on Twitter over video of Sen. Sinema’s thumbs-down vote against the minimum wage hike.

If you haven’t seen it yet (it broke Twitter yesterday), do not miss the clip of her thumbs down/curtsy gesture on the Senate floor."

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/436476/

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See, on the dogmatic Left, you can't simply have another view. Instead you are either doctrinally pure or your "sociopathic" and "horrifying."

Sinema, you are more than welcome in the GOP's Big Tent. We support Free Thinkers and Free Thinking, like the respectful debate of differing concepts and ideas in the public arena.

These ignorant clowns on Left heaped the abuse on their Free Thinking Senator from AZ.

They don't value you Sinema like the Big Tent GOP does. We would welcome you with open arms.

They not only abuse her, they don't listen to her. Sinema supports raising the minimum wage but not the inclusion of it in the coronavirus relief bill.

We in the Big Tent Free-Thinking GOP not only appreciate her, will not heap abuse on her, but we will also actually listen to what she says.

 

I would support a special wage for children 16 - 17.

 

Dynasties gobbling up all the land is a lot closer to feudalism. In my model, land would be leased according to income.
That's a pretty distant scenario from feudalism. What is happening is we are headed to what it's like in Tokyo, where rents are so expenses, they chop up apartments into 100 squarefoot caged micro spaces for people to rent, and stack apartments on top of each other they are high rises. Prices go up and up and never end, and pretty soon the only thing one can afford is enough space to climb into with your body. That's what is at the end of the road with private ownership.

 

Sure, you have a right to work for less than the federal minimum wage, and the Dept Of Labor as a right to refer your employer to the Department Of Justice for violation of the Fair Labor Standards Act.

 

Nope cost of living adjustments.

 

I picked that year because it was the year I graduated from high school ( actually, it was '69, and the minimum wage was the same as well as the unemployment rate ) I saw that unemployment was 3.8%, so that must be the sweet spot for minimum wage, which is $12.03 in today's dollars.

 

I'm seriously considering becoming a full out socialist. It has been a tough job as a Republican to go out and work (starting at minimum wage), climb the ladder to success and do it all while not relying on a collectivist run big government to hold my hand along the way. I'm simply giving into the current love affair the American people have with living life the easy way without sweating or grinding it out the old fashion way (by inserting capitalism in the fix).

But I do have a problem with only raising the minimum wage to $12.50 an hour. I say we raise the minimum wage to $50. an hour, pay off all college debts across the board, pay welfare to illegals, pay housing expenses for illegals, let illegals get drivers licenses, let illegals go to the college(s) of their choice (cost free), and up the $$ needed for food stamps so that a welfare recipient will be able to buy the same kinds of foods that the governor of Californicator Gavin Newsome ate at his $10,000 a plate meal in some fancy upscale restaurant.

I sure have been missing out in life while living life as a Republican.

 

No. If you have a min wage it should be locally dealt with--either state or local gov.

My kids built a work ethic while in high school working at fast food. These kids with no work experience got the jobs in part because pay is on a lower scale. We need low paying jobs to help those trying to build their resume or those who simply are desperate and need work now---even if they have a criminal record or bad history. People need a starting point. Take that away and you take away opportunity for the less fortunate.

 

That's precisely what I'm certain our govt would do for 99% of us while the monied continue to live in their own plush mini-countries. It would be 'to protect the environment' of course.

How do you feel about freeing up some of the vast tracks of land the govt already owns for homesteading? Increase the supply to reduce demand. National parks and such should of course be protected, but theres a lot of land out there we could use for housing now, but we arent.

 

I suggest a thorough study of the Carl Sagan Baloney Detection Kit, and scroll down to the section on 'slippery slope logical fallacy'

No one is suggesting raising the minimum wage so high it would pace an undue burden on businesses.

Seattle has proven that $15 an hour is not an undue burden. But, it might be an undue burden in Galveston. So....

But, I'm not even asking for that, 'm asking for $12 an hour, is the same was it was in 1969 ( when I graduated high school , and adjusting for inflation ) and unemployment was 3.8%. But, in L.A. the lowest wage being paid in most low skilled jobs was $2, which is more like $14, so $15 for the big cities wouldn't be a problem. But, the minimum wage proposal is not $15 right away, it starts at $9.50, and doesn't reach $15 until 2026.

But, still, I'm sayin', how about $12 an hour, what it was when unemployment was really low?

 

57% of minimum wage workers are over the age of 25.

$12 was what it was at fast food places in 1968, no one had a problem with it, no one, so why can't it be that today?

 

aren't they far away from everything?

 

I would say it depends on the greed factor.

 

spose it depends on what you mean by 'far' and 'everything'. Is 20 minutes on the freeway 'far'?

 

The snowflake-o-meter I have running concurrent with PF just raced from 0-10 as it input your posting.

That being said, let's dissect.

In the USA, socialism does not rule. Capitalism rules.

Both socialism and capitalism are economic systems, not governmental systems.

Capitalism can work under Democracies, Republics and Monarchies.

Pure socialism, as history has proven, can only be enforced by dictatorial, one-party rule, which is why Socialism and it's driving governmental mechanism, Communism, were both DOA at birth.

However, pure Capitalism has also never worked, which is why our economy has jolted like a yo-yo regularly since before the Civil War.

Capitalism with appropriate control mechanisms, plus small floating islands of socialism in places where the generational contract is necessary (social security, healthcare) seems to be the best mix of all worlds and does not require totalitarianism as a governing force in order to implement the dual economic system.

What I just described is exactly what Germany and a number of other 1st world European nations have. Also, Canada has it.

Also, *gasp*, in reality, the USA also has it.

Now, if you are really, really, REALLY against socialism in all of it's forms, then surely you will be willing to voluntarily give up your social security checks when they come and send them back, right?

I do, however, fully agree with you that life as a Republican has been hard. I am feeling for you. The party of once great figures like Lincoln, Grant, Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower and Reagan has sunk to a low that we never thought possible: grovelling like Gollum before a thrice-married, porn-star rawdogging, pussygrabbing, 30,000+ times lying while in office, absolutely disastrous at combatting pandemics Trump who almost destroyed the Republic.

Yepp, hard times for Republicans.

We may forgive y'all for this travesty one day in the future. Maybe. Then again, maybe not. Maybe never, ever.

 

But why did that 57% of people over 25 choose to work minimum wage? Are they just starting out in the work force? Did they immigrate here with no skills and need that job to get started? Are they looking for a job with a company that has quantity labor and can offer flex time for employees to spend more time with family or work around school hours?

We can't assume why someone specifically chose a minimum wage job....but we can say that they accepted the position.

Mc Donald's pays higher then minimum wage. I know another fast food entity that pays only minimum wage. Which job is easier to get if you are needing that stepping stone?

If you arbitrarily raise the min wage, McDonalds will increase its base pay again to attract higher quality workers who already have work history.

I've known people who have gotten out of prison and needed to start a work history. I've been a mother who quit a personal life consuming high paying job to work a low paying position so that I could have more control over my hours and spend time with my young kids.

Destroying options that affect peoples ability to achieve their personal goals is a consequence when Federal politicans mandate pay.

And I googled a bit and it looks like the min wage in 1968 was $1.30 not $1.68.

 

When LBJ transformed a population of people who had to work but could not vote to people who could vote but not work, he created a population of children from an experience standpoint. This form of slavery, economic slavery, was more cruel than Democrat Plantation overlords unleashed against Blacks before Republicans freed the slaves.

 

And where I live, my rent for a one bedroom house (complete with utilities and internet) is 550$ a month AND I make 12$ an hour

 

Speaking of hard times, have you seen Hunter's laptop?

How about Tara Reade? Have you heard from her lately?

You Gorbachev lovers have short memories. Reagan is your model Republican today because he's dead.

 

The minimum-wage debate is a mildly encouraging folly
Minimum-wage laws are a price we pay for democracy, which is worth it.

• By George F. Will

Looking on the bright side, which is usually irrational but occasionally justifiable, the debate about raising the federal minimum wage to $15 is mildly encouraging evidence that moderately sensible policymaking is again possible. The debate has been informed by data, not all of which has been ignored. The debate has been a reminder of federalism’s importance in a continental nation. Because the debate is about money, it has revived the capacity for legislative bargaining about splitable differences. Best of all, one side in the debate has refrained from overturning legislative due process, which it could have done and the other side has hitherto done.

Minimum-wage laws are a price we pay for democracy, which is worth it. Leave aside the folly of government setting prices, in this case the price of labor, which is an undertaking for which government has demonstrated scant aptitude. And never mind the dubious morality of forbidding people to work for less than the government deems proper. Disregard, too, the probability of unintended but predictable consequences from a $15 minimum wage: . . . .

 

I'm game in exchange for a reversal of policies that depress the wage rates in the first place. So how about:

Mandatory E-Verify
A return to the "remain in mexico" policy
A reduction in H1-B visas per year, maybe down to 20,000 and only for jobs that are paying above the wage rates for those positions.
Gradually reduce legal immigration down to 1/2 million a year.

How about it?

 

Well, if you can homestead 20 minutes from town, go for it.

 

The states that have a higher cost of living already have $12+ min wage. Why is the Federal government trying cookie cutter all the states under their mandate?

If oklahoma is forced to increase min wage to $12 wouldn't it make sense to force California to increase by $30 or 40? $12 min wage in California has the same purchasing power as $6 min wage in Oklahoma. So what is the Federal government trying to accomplish?

 

Do you support adding an inch to rulers so that short people can reach the top shelf?