Turning Jesus into God

false, you are wasting a whole thread on your redd herring.
I stated that "space has no properties", therefore there is nothing to warp. (a tesla quote btw)
I went on to give my definition of space, X*Y*Z, which is a purely abstract mathematical construct with "no physical properties" that can be warped. You failed to correctly distinguish what I stated or purposely created a strawman by claiming that I was stating there was nothing in (outer) space. I made no such claim. You go on to express your 'faith' that no part of (outer) space is empty without any way to validate it outside your religious weenerstein worship beyond your faith in something entirely made up.

Outer space is a big place, and you have no evidence to support your claim of 'fact' yet you persist.

You failed to demonstrate that space can actually physically warp because you did not know weener boy stated in 1929 that he made it all up! LMAO

 

but you do have to defend weeners version of it.

No you are the one like your not playing baseball pal that is declaring that is what I am declaring, a repugnant gross misrepresentation of the facts.

Nope just weeners **** mess.

“Einstein's relativity work is a magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king... its exponents are brilliant men but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists.”
― Nikola Tesla Read more quotes from Nikola Tesla

When are you going to come out here and post something that is actually correct wil?

All willfully dishonest wrongful characterizations of literally everything I post because you refuse to readmore.

So for those interested in the truth:



Wizard: The Life and Times of Nikola Tesla : Biography of a Genius

Seems thats not true wil........

Einstein was once asked what it was like to be the smartest man alive.
He replied “I don't know, you'll have to ask Nikola Tesla.”
There is absolutely no doubt that Nikola Tesla was one of the greatest inventors ever.
His endeavours dictated the electrical revolution which would allow it to run todays modern world.Oct 5, 2014
Nikola Tesla- The Man Who Lit Up The World – Scientific Scribbles

speak for yourself please

 

Yes .. I know what you said .. "Space has no properties - is Nothing - so can't be warped - as there is nothing Zero Nada Zilch"

How is calling you out on "What you Said" a "red herring" or Strawman"

You know not what you talk about - and have yet to find me a cubic meter of this "Empty Space" in all the Galaxy.

Your argument is thus "Crucified"

 

I will not apologize from an evolutionist who doesn't understand the difference of Old Testament Times and New Testament Times. Jesus gave a new law by fulfilling the Law of Moses he gave to the ancient Israelites. If you just understood more that Jehovah (Jesus) first gave the higher law to Moses for the people of Israel. But, when the people rebelled at Mt. Sinai while Moses was on the Mountain talking with Jehovah, Moses broke it when he saw the people's rebellion. He went back up and received the lesser law, the Law of Moses and the Ten Commandments. The rest of the world also was backward living the law of Hammurabi, the eye for an eye, which was similar to the Law of Moses. Different times, different laws and commandments for the people.

As far as the "Path to Salvation" coming from an evolutionist is funny. No, they did not have the same laws to live under. But, the condition of following the laws is the same. Keep the Lord's commandments no matter what age you lived in. Jesus preached to the spirits in prison. He went to give them the higher law as well.

 

I'm sorry you do not have the ability to comprehend the gospel. I will pray for you.

 

None of that disputes Einstein's relativity theory in ANY WAY.

And, I certainly do not have to defend relativity theory. There is a whole branch of science called "physics" that addresses issues such as that. And, they are highly active in testing relativity theory.

 

Evolution has absolutely NOTHING to do with "path to salvation". And, even if you choose not to apologize for your ad hom I'd prefer you sticking to civil discussion, please.

I'm only going to touch on one aspect of "path to salvation" here, as there is something to be corrected:

I mentioned Matthew 25 because in verses 31 on Jesus is speaking to HIS FOLLOWERS.

And, the law he laid down there as the parable of the sheep and the goats was for HIS FOLLOWERS who had fully accepted Jesus.

That law was that his followers are required to be seeking out those who need help and providing the help that is needed - seeking out those in prison, those who are poor, those who are unrecognized strangers and providing them help.

And, he stated the penalty for HIS FOLLOWERS for not doing so is hell.

I find that truly inspirational. What a powerful law!

 

Let us not be projecting our own failures onto others no. You were given 10 examples - from the Chapter you were quoting John 8 - of Jesus claiming "the Father" was someone other than himself.

You ran from scripture - and did not understand the context of the scripture you were quoting - and most likely had not even read it - so it is your lack of comprehension that is on trial here.

Though - I think your ability to comprehend is quite fine - it is the will that is lacking. .

 

Yeh you do, my previous citations trashed weeners theory.

If you knew what was going on from moment to moment you would know know that particular post was not intended to duispute weener, it was intended to dispute all the **** you misrepresented to prove how WRONG you are as seen in your quotes posted immediately above each of my postings.
That is how the board quotation system works wil. Do you need help using the website?

 

so just to be clear 'space' is defined by whats in it?

 

Let me know when you would like to have a civil conversation I would be happy to discuss the contents of "Outer Space" - but how about we talk about Turning Jesus into God in this space.

 

Im trying but you refuse.
I asked an extremely simple question that any primer school kid is capable of answering,
"is 'space' defined by whats in it?"
Simple yes or no will suffice.
Why are you dodging such a simple question? Dont you know?

 

I've never seen a cite from you that showed anything similar to what you claim.

Quotes from Tesla or whatever show Tesla's opinion. I really like Tesla, but this thread isn't about liking Tesla.

Relativity theory is a premier theory of physics.

If you have a cite, then point to it in some way.

 

That is entirely off topic.

Giftedone has a good point - this thread should get back to the OP.

 

Perfect timing!
Then neither of you should have been arguing it!
How convenient!
Fair enough I accept his and your concessions!

 

So, those who don't share your religious views are disagreeing with you in order to turn a profit?

Isn't that just pure ad hominem?

 

Why are you asking questions - to which the answer is not known - or at least incredibly complicated ... chicken or egg thing almost .. as if this helps your claim ?

and how is this in any way related to the OP .. and what I earth have I refused - w/r to the OP you are out in la la land

What is that you want to say about space ? you claim it is Nothing - OK - Got it .. what am I refusing - you are making stuff up about my position .. and then debating that position .. near every post Mate. starts to wear on a person after awhile - you have no interest in hearing anything but your own voice ...sfar as I can tell from this interaction.. You need to learn to listen - if you want to be heard.

 

you already conceded your claims and wilbur agreed with you, no point in backpedaling. When you saw the writing on the wall you you quickly dodged the point by demanding to get back to the op, by all means please do and stop whining.

 

False. You posted total BS and ad hom as if THAT is an argument.

AND, it was off topic.

AND, you refused to cite ANYTHING.

So, just how long does anyone have to listen to your CRAP before just hoping you will go away?

 

you are the one came in the middle of the thread buddinski demanding I repost all my previously citations, pretending I didnt post any, hire a ****ing secretary if you are too ****ing lazy to read through the thread.

If you are not satisfied with any citations I previously put up proving the points made and there are several then you can cite any objection to each one you disagree with, you did not, you never bothered to even look at any of those citations, but its too late now, you already conceded and I already accepted.

I did go away, I respected your concessions and moved on, and here you both are after crying off topic, both of you trying to keep the discussion going crying a river of blues over it.

If you think you have valid points to make feel free to make a new thread somewhere, and make sure to keep the arguments in tact. I'm done with this thread.

 

The representation of Jesus in our times

is derived from an Irish Celtic "trinity"
A 3 in one deity as in father - son - holy spirit


Hardly bothering with any interpretation
of a predicted - - messiah.
eh @DennisTate

Moi
recovering gnostic

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The average particle content of interstellar space is 10^6 particles per cubic meter.

Space is NOT a true vacuum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer...FjAFegQIARAF&usg=AOvVaw1KZCYICiWWhTpKiA0wj7Gh

 

Interesting - these must be super small quarknoid type particles .. but didn't know there was that much stuff with mass.-

How many photons I wonder .. would be gazillions of those- the light of the universe passing through ..

 

The theory that Jews changed their own sacred texts after the advent of Christianity has been debunked long ago. The Septuagint is an heretic version of the Tanakh.

I don't know which text represents an older tradition - if I had to guess I'd say the Septuagint version - but Judaism is not limited to the Masoretic text. You'll have to dig very deep into the Talmud and rabbinical writings to uncover old little known oral traditions. Add archeology to the mix, and a tail (or an unusually long sex organ) to YHWH:

https://www.bibleodyssey.org/en/tools/image-gallery/y/yahweh-asherah-drawing

The divine couple in the Sinai drawing doesn't seem quite human.

 

Good question about the particles - I wondered that, too.

I think the main point is that Koko's "cite" regarding space being a vacuum leaves a false impression at the very least. The fact of particles is perhaps more significant than what the particles are. Scientists can and do watch particles come in and out of existence in a vacuum, in accordance with Einstein's statement of the equivalence of energy and mass. As I understand it, space itself has energy. When space expands, the energy density stays the same - so there is more total energy.

Koko keeps trying to pump older models of physics, but those before Einstein knew there were serious unanswered problems with that. Tesla and others made significant progress on various fronts with the old models, but that doesn't mean therre was an aether theory that worked in general.

I'm not a physicist - so ...