Evolution is a joke pt. XV

I write this because it is a hot topic. MY BELIEF IS...

Evolution is a "joke" and it is faith (FAITH) BASED where it becomes a religion. Why I think that is because there in no level of argument that a sound person can go against my hypothesis, because no science backs evolution.

Evolution is a religion.

Evolution is a BELIEF just like believing in God. Those who believe in evolution, who disrespect those who believe in God are no different. You both are the same believing in the unknown. No difference, and it is disgusting to think one disrespects the other since God and Evolution are equal.

If you do not think evolution is not faith based... PROVE IT!!? YOU WILL LOSE!!!

NO EVIDENCE. This is why I have always put it in religion forum, because evolution is your religion based on nothing other than what another said, just like the Bible...

Come at me and get destroyed... This subject hasn't been high in post because I lose, nor a hot topic. If you think Evolution isn't a religion for those who refuse to think on their own.

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Evolution is a religion that is Faith Based...

 

First you need to define,
Religion
Scientific Theory.
Fact.
Scientific Law
Hypothesis

And the what you mean by evolution.

 

The OP is a JOKE because it is INCOHERENT gibberish akin to what one would expect to hear on an elementary school playground.

Sad!

/thread fail

 

https://evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1007/s12052-010-0221-5

In this study from 2010, the figure 1 chart shows around 94 million Christians in the US belong to various denominations that accept evolution, and declare it compatible with the Bible. Under 46 million belong to denominations that do not.
I speculate that the number of denominations that accept evolution as fact and compatible have increased since then. You can check if you want.
I also speculate that many individuals who belong to churches that officially reject evolution tend to let that go, and believe evolution occurs.
Ultra-Orthodox Judaism does not accept evolution. Regular Orthodox Jews are split on it. The other three major denominations accept evolution.

Given that diversity, and prevalence to the evolution side of the debate, I disagree with your statement, Evolution is a religion.

You mention the Bible. Are you a member of a particular church?
In Genesis, why do variations of the phrase 'after its kind' appear with every 'let the land/sea bring forth' creation of plants and animals? That phrase appears 18 times between the top of page 1 and unloading Noah's ark.
Shouldn't we pay attention to something written 18 times? What are after kinds? The idea of after requires before. What are before kinds?

 

You had a descent debate going until your last paragraph. The phrase "after it's own kind" doesn't have a thing to do with time, before and after. This means that they multiplied without variance in its own sphere. Perhaps no mutation as well.
Evolution is a belief for sure. He is right on it. You are taking information that occurred in the past and interpreting things based on the present. There is a belief that it takes billions of years for intelligent life to develop from lower levels of life without actual proof and observation that it happens. Conjecture at best. When we read books and articles about something evolved, like the universe or lower life levels, these writings are filled with fuzzy words like "may be", "could be", "thought to be" and so on. But without any sign of scientific or observational proof. These evolutionary concepts are pretty much excepted without proof and taken on faith and hope they are true. Because, they have not truly been seen by all. Scientist "think." Truly a fuzzy word.
I would also point out that Darwin's evolution theory was excepted by the atheist leaders of his time and moving forward. Yet, Darwin didn't try to prove that lower creatures evolved into man. He simply found that the fittest survive as mutations occur. Not that they become more complex. These atheists over time have used this belief to push mass murdering and elimination of so-called sub-humans. Eugenics became a crying call of the atheists like Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Margaret Sanger for the elimination of blacks through abortion. Marx, Lenin and others have used this sick religious movement of evolution to limit mankind's standing in the world allowing for murderous devils amongst us. Jeffrey Dahmer in an interview before his death said as much that there was nothing wrong eating human beings since we are not God's children because there is no God. So, there is no murder commandment and no sin. In prison, he became a believer in Christ and learned that God lives and what he did was a sin and murder. He didn't use this new knowledge to try and escape his punishment. So, I would debate the idea that the belief in God is the same as the belief in evolution as well. It's true that evil people have used religion as an excuse to kill. But far more, especially in the past couple hundred years, have used evolution to kill 100 million living souls let alone the 60 million aborted unborn babies.

 

In this case, I am assuming you already know... Evolution as Darwinism.

 

Sorry you feel this way. I will continue with those who understand the means of which "A Theory" is established.

 

Great post! I understand that evolution is widely spread throughout the world. But, is a religion due to being Faith based. There is no evidence, using science, that justified Darwin's Theory of Evolution.

It has not passed the scientific method, this is only a hypothesis. This brings up, exactly what you posted, why is it so many believe in evolution if it is nothing but, as I described, faith based?

 

GOOD GRAVY!!!

You are the first to understand this (these) threads in decades!!! Kudos!!!

 

To make this clear. Since evolution has not passed the scientific method and is growing in strength without ANY evidence it is an actual theory makes evolution faith based.

If someone could provide how, if you believe in evolution, this evidence I would like to discuss. If you are one of the faith believing, post why you support your faith in evolution.

 

Sorry dude. It's the THEORY of Evolution - if it was a religion, it would be referred to as "The Law of Evolution".
It is a THEORY because it is a possible explanation for the current state of life on Earth, one that scientists don't
yet feel confident enough in to call a "Law of Science". If it were seen as a religion, it would not be questionable.

I'm going to rate this thread a "fail".

 

Pugs and poodles may not look the part, but if you trace their lineages far enough back in time all dogs are descended from wolves. Gray wolves and dogs diverged from an extinct wolf species some 15,000 to 40,000 years ago. There’s general scientific agreement on that point, and also with evolutionary anthropologist Brian Hare’s characterization of what happened next. ‘The domestication of dogs was one of the most extraordinary events in human history,” Hare says.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/how-wolves-really-became-dogs-180970014/

While one may consider it a theory. It is not based on faith.

But believe as you wish. It is your religious right to do so.

 

Thank you. Now, could you explain what I understand

 

You did well with your answer until you rated it "fail." You made yourself the "F" student by doing so. I think it's a great thread.
You are just twisting words. The fact is, atheists believe the Theory of Evolution is a "Law." Else why would they use it to kill 100 million people and 60 million unborn babies? Atheist actually believe it to be true in their attempts to disprove the existence of our Almighty God.

 

That was an asinine rebuttal. Evolution has nothing to do with proving or disproving a God of creation. Evolution could be seen, and is seen by a number of Christians as the language of God's creation. Evolution does not in any way discuss the "how" that the Universe
was created, or the "why". I was discussing how scientists view the THEORY of Evolution as a constantly changing possible
answer to how life has changed on Earth. It is the cradle of DNA research, but has nothing to do with the creation of the Cosmos.

As for your weird rant into it's involvement in politics and war - that was pure tin-foil hat silliness.

 

Just curious to know which theist ASS you pulled that bovine excrement hypothesis from?

FTR neither YOUR religion NOR your IMAGINARY deity have "passed the scientific method" because they deal with Stone Age SUPERSTITIONS that have NOTHING whatsoever to do with actual SCIENCE.

Evolution INCLUDES the Scientific FACTS derived from the DATA obtained in the DISCIPLINES of Biology, Paleontology, Genetics, Comparative Anatomy and Anthropology which all COMBINE to REINFORCE the THEORY of Evolution.

The ONUS rests entirely on YOU to provide Peer Reviewed EVIDENCE that DEBUNKS the RESULTS from ALL of those Scientific Disciplines because WHEN you FAIL to do so for even ONE of them your worthless allegation above COLLAPSES given that it is based entirely upon a theist FALSEHOOD.

Sad!

 

Christianity is a "joke" and it is faith (FAITH) BASED where it becomes a religion. Why I think that is because there in no level of argument that a sound person can go against my hypothesis, because no science backs Christianity.

See what I did there?

 

Yet another thread where people who beleive in magic give lectures on what does and does not qualify as science. Too funny.

 

A theory is not the same as A Scientific Theory, a few fundamentalist Christians use the incorrect term either because they do not understand what a Scientific Theory is or they just lie for Jesus. This is why I asked you to define your terms so that it was clear you actually knew what you were talking about. That you have not done so tells me all I need to know.

There is a common misconception that a scientific law is a more sound version of a scientific theory. This is largely due to the fact that the scientific definition of the word is different than the English definition. In this article we define both terms and compare the two definitions. We then apply these definitions to the definition of the scientific method. Finally, we use these definitions to argue that science is the best tool we have to understand the natural world.
https://medium.com/science-journal/scientific-theory-vs-scientific-law-5624633a8f1b

 

With the discovery of DNA and DNA sequencing, plus radiometric dating, plus fossil records I don't see how anyone can make a case evolution is not real.

Maybe one of the Bible thumpers posting here who claims evolution is not real can explain vestigial organs.

 

Don't you find it quite hypocritical of Christians viewing evolution as the language of God since the Bible is the Word or Language of God? The Theory of Evolution has to involve the "Creation" of the universe. I don't see how you can exclude this from the Theory of Evolution.

The rebuttal was a gifted sign of intelligence in this collapsing universe of believing in God. The Atheists claimed the theory from the beginning. It proves their point that there is no need for God. You deny this? And, you deny that tyrants throughout the past two centuries have been using the theory of evolution as their reasoning for ethnic and religious cleansing?

 

Evolution has literally nothing what so ever to do with the beginning or creation of the universe. It is only about how life evolves, after life came into existence. It has nothing, whatsoever to do with a god or gods, nor does it exclude a god or gods.

 

Tell that to atheists. Especially tyrants like a Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Castro, Chey, Lenin and so on. They used Darwin's Theory to justify the elimination of people based on ethnic, racial and religious characteristics. Just like Jeffery Dahmer did to justify cannibalism.
The evolution of the universe from the Big Bang Theory is necessary to explain the chemicals and interactions to create life forms. And, this is used by Atheists to justify their belief in no God. It's just a fact Atheists use these theories to justify our existence.

 

why? They also know that.

so did the founders of this country. Or did your god not also create African Americans? Lol

Correct. God has nothing to do with it. Neither the Big Bang, or evolution show that a god is or is not real.

well, we know that both the Big Bang and evolution are the reason we exist. It’s an o leftover and demonstrable fact. But both theories have nothing to do with your god. You god could exist or he could not exist, and it would have no bearing on both the Big Bang or evolution.