Evolution is a joke pt. XV

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  1. Derideo_Te

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    Thank you for ESTABLISHING that your only INTENTION for this entire thread is TROLLING.

    /thread fail
     
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    OK, you obviously have problems understanding written text, try a video to educate yourself, this really is primary school stuff.

     
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    We can see how Liars for Jesus actually rely on the ignorance of the Christians they are preaching to. From Ken Ham to Kent Hovind they rely on a misunderstanding of science to pedal their rubbish.
     
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    It's nice you misspelled decent using descent. We're talking about descent with modification through Natural Selection.
    Then you say after has nothing to do with after. Well, I say it does. After his kind means changing from a before kind. Why do we find some snake anomalies with a leg and foot sticking out? Because the walking, talking snake who spoke to Eve had legs. Today's snakes are after that kind.
    ...certainly through mutations.
    As for actual proof and observation, no one ever saw a duckbilled platypus on an ark. Undisturbed layers of strata can show us the 270 million year history of trilobites evolving from an 18 millimeter before kind, up to 1.5 meters long after kinds, and hundreds of kinds (species) evolving and going extinct before the last ones died off in the Devonian extinction, if I recall. Do we know exactly which came from which before or after another one? Experts disagree and look for new evidence to figure out small issues of descent. But we know over a long time little ones branched out into bigger ones of many shapes and sizes, and none are found anymore. ....so far. Science allows for us to find one and adjust our theory.

    Then you misuse the word except for accept a few times, blathering the opposite of truth about which 'theory' backed racism.
    Monogenism aligns with the Tower of Babel story and Darwin and Galton. All having the trait of human language migrated from a single population. So, from western-most Ireland, all the way east around the world to the southern tip of Argentina, and on every Pacific island, anyone who speaks a human language and can learn other languages descended from Adam and Eve.

    Polygenism posits that all races were CREATED separately in their zones (agassiz). Adam and Eve were white. And into white hands all other races are delivered. That's a lie, but Polygenists and evil Fascists tend to lie. Pre Civil War slavers used Agassiz's Polygenism. Hitler used a version modified by Madison Grant, who invented what we now call microevolution. Liars all.
    // 1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
    2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. \\

    Hitler burned Darwin's books, and all 'Monism', German for Monogenism.
    Galton's monogenist eugenics asserted that interracial marriage would make better humans, just as ranchers made better cows by breeding them with distant populations.

    Hitler and Rosenberg's polygenist eugenics bred for traits the exact same way puppy mills ruin a popular breed to make quick money. The genes wear out. The master race was going to be "thin and reedy" according to Galton's book.

    As for who got lots of people killed, the common denominator is despotic speech control.
     
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    This is the last edition of Darwin's first best seller.
    http://darwin-online.org.uk/content/frameset?viewtype=text&itemID=F401&pageseq=1

    The evidence begins on page 5, and continues throughout the book. Darwin said 4 times, his theory says nothing about origin of life, only origin of species descended from previous, similar species.
    The first broad evidence is the fact that human domestication of plants and animals brings major change quickly. It doesn't make any sense that wild species would stay the same forever.

    This matches the Bible in not describing the origin of life or the first species. It says only that the Lord spoke, and the seas and land brought forth various forms after their kinds. We see the before kinds in the fossil record, similar to the kinds above and below them, ever more changed the more undisturbed strata between them. Early Hebrews knew change occurred, causing them to write 'after [pronoun] kind/s' 18 times when describing how life around them came to be. They could see similarities in traits. They knew their goats were deer changed over generations.

    So, they observed, and made up a story about God to form a religion around it. That doesn't make earth and sea bringing forth kinds after their kinds a religion. Adding God as causal is the religion. Darwin sought an earthly causality, and didn't care what to what faith his readers belonged. He called it Descent with Modification by Natural Selection. The last sentence in the book shows Darwin didn't claim to know what a Creator did.

    After reading the book, I decided to include every aspect.
    Descent with Gradual Modification by Natural Selection of Random, Heritable Variations within Unity of Type. He supported all of those by citing evidence. He also said Natural Selection is the major, but not the only mechanism for change.
     
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    Here is what it does do. When you have a "magic book" that is supposed to be the literal word of God and 100% true and part of that book (creation story) is proven to be false, it creates significant doubt as to the veracity of the rest of the book.
     
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    There is quite a difference between a current scientific model or theory, that we realize is likely not perfectly accurate, and which we are happy to revise or even discard with better evidence, and an unshakable religious belief based on a holy scripture that is not to be questioned.
     
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    Taken as allegory, Genesis 1-11 does not conflict with the Theory of Evolution. Most Christian leaders agree.
     
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    IMHO, Christians claim the Bible is true, until it is proven not to be true. Then it becomes allegory/metaphor.

    I would say Genesis is mythology Allegory has hidden meaning. What is the hidden meaning in Genesis and if Genesis is not true how does it differ from any other mythology?

    As mythology Genesis clearly performs the four function of mythology described below.
    https://fractalenlightenment.com/36315/life/joseph-campbells-four-basic-functions-of-mythology
     
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    Nothing convicts with a metaphor if you take the metaphor as loosely enough defined.
     
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    People are evolving right before your eyes. Modern people are growing a third artery in their forearms. Ancient people, just a few centuries ago, only had two arteries in their forearms. Maybe in the future everyone will have a functioning brain as well.
     
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    Even the Bible says that evolution is reality.

    Wisdom 19:18-19 (CEB) = "18 If we are careful to observe events, we can see just how the elements of the universe are transformed. It’s the same transformation that happens when someone changes the sounds that a harp makes by changing the key while continuing to play the same melody.19 In this way, land animals were changed into underwater creatures, while animals that swam in the waters now moved onto the land."

    Whales descended from 'tiny deer' that walked on land 50 MILLION years ago before taking to the water, study reveals
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...ny-deer-walked-land-50-MILLION-years-ago.html
     
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    No, according to the article, it's evolution. Dogs evolved from wolves.
     
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    Where to start...Snakes with legs or not. No evolution. They existed either prior to the flood and also after the flood. If they existed prior to Noah's flood then they were on the Ark. The world hasn't been around 70 million years. At most, 14,000 years. All the archeology is just observational and guess work based on an old earth belief. With no proof either. There is no proof of trilobites evolving either. More junk science.

    Hitler burned books, period. Doesn't mean he didn't agree with Darwinism. He did. No God so no problem with genocide.
     
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    GOOD GOD!!! I wish I can reply like you... I can't. -. KUDOS TO FOR YOUR EPIC REPLY SKILLS!!!

    NOW... MY RESPONSE...

    You have been here for a minute. You know my post. Why are you fighting me for one?

    Next, no evidence that the *Big Bang* happened because 0+0+0+0exp
    This isn't about Christ... It is about science and how they used "faith" so people would believe in evolution...
     
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    It is NOT a theory because it has not passed the scientific method.

    It is faith based... If you can prove it has passed the scientific method, please post it.
     
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    Anti science is dangerous, so when you make such blatantly incorrect threads, I will point it out.

    When you say silly things like this all you do is show you have no business discussing anything regarding science.
     
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    Please understand that this has nothing to do with Christian religion. It is about science and how they "used" faith based to forward people's belief in evolution.
     
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    AGREED!!!!
     
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    GOOD GOD!!! I wish I can reply like you... I can't. -. KUDOS TO FOR YOUR EPIC REPLY SKILLS!!!

    NOW... MY RESPONSE...

    You have been here for a minute. You know my post. Why are you fighting me for one?

    Next, no evidence that the *Big Bang* happened because 0+0+0+0exp
    I cannot. But, I will also not lie and come up with a ridiculous notion that I know. That is what evolution is.

    Darwin went to an island and saw animals he never saw before doing things he thought impossible. Why did he leave? On the island of Britain, there are several (like thousands) of species of life that thrive in their own ecosystem.

    It was nothing new.

    It became a religion to oppose Christianity.
     
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    Now be fair, I'm guessing he's a Christian which would make it a Bronze Aged superstition. :wink:
    I agree with everything else you say.
     
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    Good GRAVY - WHERE DID YOU COME FROM!!!

    Your debate skills are authentic and genuine. I would love to debate with you, but thank you for (partially) being on my side this time.

    I would hate for you to be against me now, since I am dealing with so many...

    THANK YOU!!!
     
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    Wow...

    Just wow...
     
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    I WANT TO MAKE THIS CLEAR!!!

    THIS IS "NOT" ABOUT GOD OR CHRIST! THIS ABOUT HOW EVOLUTION HAS BECOME A RELIGION SINCE IT HAS NOT BEEN DEFINED OR PASSED THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD TO EVEN BE CONSIDERED A HYPOTHESIS!!!
     
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    Do you know the difference?
     

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