Biden to hold first press conference today since taking office.

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  1. a better world

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    China is assisting the development of countries (via BRI) so people don't HAVE to emigrate.
     
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    I don't they would go after any illegals. Just having the system in place prevents illegals from getting jobs (except of course for off the book-cash only jobs) and most of them would have to return home
     
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    Okay...but E-Verify does the same thing and it already exists.
     
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    So we can shut off immigration if we provide foreign aid?

    Well since we already provide foreign aid...:angel:
     
  5. LangleyMan

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    Probably not, but I'm looking at why Democrats oppose implementing a serious effort to control paid work.

    In any event, we need a serious e-verify program.
     
  6. LangleyMan

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    It doesn't feature an instant answer the way it works now. I, for one, don't want any potential employer to have an excuse to hire an illegal.

    I know a Nexus card type system could give instant answers. Better ideas? I'm all ears. Do nothing? More of the same? I can't hear folks pushing that.
     
  7. Lil Mike

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    Why Democrats oppose implementing a serious effort to control paid work?

    Do you regard that as some sort of mystery?
     
  8. Lil Mike

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    According to their website they do provide instant results.

    Instant results — most case results displayed in three to five seconds
     
  9. LangleyMan

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    Not to me. They don't want control that an instant answer e-verify system would give a Republican President.

    I think they should try to get a deal where an effective e-verify system is created in return for allowing some (how many?) of illegals here now too stay.
     
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    Maybe they can make their system work. Nexus links iris scans, pictures, and fingerprints. No reason it can't be done another way.
     
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    Zero illegal aliens should stay. Do you know what "illegal" means?
     
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    They don't want a President to find and remove illegals? To me, if they're found via E-Verify, that means that got their jobs with fraudulent documentation and identity fraud, which are felonies. And the Democrats want those criminals to stay.

    OK
     
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    So, there won't be a deal if you have your way. More of the same.
     
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    Among many liberals, and many moderates, there's resistance to jailing illegals even more than e-verifying them out of a job and seeing them leave because they have no work. The key to gaining liberal support is to make a deal on the people here now.
    Seems as though they want many of them to stay.

    I want a solution that includes an effective e-verify system that can be applied from this point forward.
     
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    No; you need to reform those US stooges - eg, the IMF and the WTO - to oversee prosperous development in ALL countries, as proposed by Keynes in 1944, with his "clearing union" and "bankor" concepts.

    But the US found itself the most powerful nation in the world after WW2...and rejected Keynes' sensible proposals for global development...and the rest is history , eg CIA successive overthrow of democratic governments who chose NOT to put "America First". Disgusting, and directly responsible (because the US was in charge) for our current broken world, manifesting inter alia by the chaos on the Mexican border.
     
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    I don't think there is any appetite for E-Verify on the Democratic side. What they seem to want is amnesty and no enforcement. They may figure that once the filibuster comes down, they can get just that.
     
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    So the whole world is America's problem.
     
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    I think they would go along with a tight system in return for a deal for those already here who aren't criminals.
     
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    I won't hold my breath waiting for E-Verify to show up in a Democratic amnesty bill. I mean, why would they? What's their incentive?
     
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    Yet as you point out it already exists. Could you verify 8) your assertion please.
     
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    The Farm Workforce Modernization Act, H.R. 1603
    The American Dream and Promise Act, H.R. 6

    Enjoy!
     
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    Those are bills with specific agendas, not comprehensive immigration reform bills that would typically included programs like E-Verify.
     

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