How silly would it be to get infected at this point for purely political reasons!

I get it. Those who don't share your beliefs are trying to kill grandma. I don't fault you for having a Trump juice injection. I am glad it is available for all those who want it. My profession qualified me for phase 1 vaccination and I decided not to get it. I am not an antivaxer; I just don't do clinical trials.

I thought Democrats supported a persons right to bodily autonomy!

 

O.K., what is the truth? How many have died? Please, set me free.

 

Looks like the left is afraid the virus will be conquered. That would eliminate some authortitarianism they seem to like. It would eliminate an excuse for everything else. Common sense and freedom don't seem to be very popular on the left.

The good news for them is that I don't think Covid will go away. We haven't conquered any corona viruses yet. Seems unlikely we conquer this one. My advice is live your life. Enjoy what you can enjoy. Protect your freedoms. It will eventually come to an end. Ignore what government tells you to do. Government is looking out for itself, not for you. Government is the last place to look for advice. Wear a mask if you want to. The choice is yours.

 

Absolute nonsense! Every study has shown that the number of dead and infected have been undercounted in the U.S.

What the hell are you talking about? Trump DIDN'T allow deaths to be reported to the CDC.

I don't know if it was states or it was Trump who was lying... or were underreporting... or what. But there was most definitely lying.

 

I've never been forced to wear a mask, and I still do.

Four reasons;

a. To protect myself
b. To protect others
c. Save lives
d. Reduce health care cost

The math;

Total hospitalizations as of April 1st; 1,033,464

a. 75% of patients were dischaged within 72 hours
b. 25% of patients required a ventilator, and/or were admited to ICU

Patient (a.) average length of stay in hospital; 48 hours, at $13,000 a day

775,098 patients X $26,000 = $20 Billion

Patient (b.) average length of stay in hospital; 14 days, at $39,000 a day

258,366 patients X $546,000 (14 X $39,000) = $141 Billion

In addition, cost of increasing the number of ICU's from 24 to 36 per 100,000 pop, approx. $60 billion

Total cost; Minimum; $220 billion........and at least half of Covid19 hospitalizations were easily preventable.

Thus, wearing masks, and social distancing isn't a sacrifice for unselfish people, and for real fiscal conservatives.

 

Still making up analogical BS to fit your narrative? No such study exist. And before you even start, leftist journalist blathering is not a study.

More made up propaganda and BS. You have NOTHING that can verify that statement.

Even when confronted with an impossible flu count being 1/5 that of the lowest on record from 2011, you can't wrap your head around this. You have committed yourself to false and fake claims just because you hate a single candidate. Your dedication to these fake narratives gets exposed on almost every thread you create. No poster that I have run across in your own threads finds you credible on any level. Just like now, when confronted with current CDC statistics. First you claim Trumps lying but now claim you don't know if its Trump or the state but someones lying?

You got that part right. Someone is lying. And it isn't Trump or the State.

 

With your mindset of just following whatever you are told, there would be no point. You would just continue to deny and not investigate.

 

If the announcement was yesterday, then what the hell were you whining about in the original post I responded to?

 

1188 deaths from Covid 19 in the US yesterday.
Live your life and ignore government advice at your peril.

 

There is a problem with your math.
Patient (a.) average length of stay in hospital; 48 hours, at $13,000 a day?
That would be an ADDITIONAL $13,000 a day for anyone they deem as having Covid.
Its the first time in history that our own government put a bounty on a virus.

 

Is that an increase of evidence of a decrease? Trying to scare us with good news?

 

That's the worst part. They're not even "trying" to do... anything. They do it out of pure ignorance and stupidity.

 

The previous day was 876 and before that around 600. The death rate is increasing again at the moment.

 

So health care workers taking care of seniors since day 1 are stupid and ignorant?

 

I see the vaccine understander is logged in. How about you let people do what they think is best for their own health Dr. Golem.

 

There have been many studies. This is the latest I have seen
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0246772#sec004

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/us/politics/trump-cdc-coronavirus.html

Are you growing tired of being wrong yet? Because I'm getting a little tired of correcting you again and again.

 

This just deals with infected. We have no idea how many people were or are infected unless everyone is tested.
You claimed the dead were being undercounted.
Where is this study about the dead being undercounted.

Sorry your headline from a link to the NYT that I have to pay for doesn't count.
If you had evidence of Trump controlling the count of the number of dead, you would have provided it.

 

Because people who believe they are doing what they think is best, are actually damaging others and damaging the country. It's because of them that it has taken longer to go back to normal, and stop the degradation of the economy. Not to mention that they are soon to become the main cause for most deaths.

Any other questions?

 

Heil Golem, Heil Golem, Heil Golem

 

You wish.

 

What are you talking about? The CDC was bypassed on ALL data

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.31.20184036v3
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
https://www.statnews.com/2021/01/25...s-greatest-in-pro-trump-areas-analysis-shows/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-bluntly-coronavirus-deaths-are-undercounted/

Ok... now your turn: Either produce evidence using STUDIES similar to the ones above, showing that deaths were undercounted, or ADMIT that evidence shows they were undercounted.

 

Flattery is not going to spare you from having to produce evidence that deaths were overcounted, or to admit that the evidence available tends to show that they were undercounted.

 

Isn't it possible for vaccinated people to still get the virus? I thought in Pfizer initial test 95 people in the group caught the virus. 90 in the placebo group and 5 in the vaccinated group. Doesn't the 5 in the vaccinated group mean that you can still catch the virus even vaccinated?

News Release from March 30, 2021:

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Newsroom/Art...ne-breakthrough-confirmed-in-Washington-state

 

I will. Thanks you.

 

Try not to kill anyone.