Fallout: US Suppression of Russian Vaccine in Brazil Becomes Diplomatic Incident

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    Fallout: US Suppression of Russian Vaccine in Brazil Becomes Diplomatic Incident
    Families just have 10 minutes to grieve at cemetary: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...sweeps-brazil-families-10-minutes-say-goodbye

    Chiefs of Army, Navy and Air Force resign simultaneously: https://www.wsj.com/articles/brazil...esident-tries-to-shore-up-support-11617127392

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    Anyone following the news is aware that Brazil is really struggling with COVID. The Brazilian President has come under fire for his COVID response or lack thereof. But, what lead to this? It looks like there may have been some back door interference from the US according to an HHS report done in 2020.

    What do you think?
     
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    I knew from the start that the Sputnik II vaccine was safe just by Vladimir Putin's openness when he spoke of it. The demonizing of the vaccine and the way the media ignored its existence, was done to hurt Russia without any concern towards the lives lost, and the economic hardship it would cause.

    How could we have fallen so low?


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    Honestly, I was a bit taken aback reading this report. It sounds like low-brow school yard games, not something I would like to see from any governmental agency especially my own. I wonder how history will remember our collective silence on the things that should matter.
     
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    It is highly likely that the US interfered as the story suggests. That is how the US does things, all around the world. It commits military aggression as it pleases, insults and overthrows legitimate governments around the world.

    This story describes the way the federal government does things.
     
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    To give you an idea of Washington's mafia tactics of dealing with other countries, recently the Greek people were furious over some ships they were forced to buy, even though they are trash compared to the French ships they had been considering. Greece was being overcharged by Washington for pieces of junk, and yet the American in charge insulted them and said that beggars can't be choosy. You figure!

    Other than that, Mitsotakis didn't have the courage to go against the EU and buy the Sputnik vaccine the way Hungary did, and completely destroyed their economic recovery.
     
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    And how rude for the USA gave 10 million in foreign aid to Greece.

    And maybe the truly sloppy testing the Sputnik released with virtual no testing. Why would Greece authorities be nervous about those results and of the medical authorities who "jumped out of building".

    Who knows?
     
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    Actually Sputnik has been proven to be the safest and surest vaccine, and now Germany is negotiating for it. The point is, that the US, Britain and EU had to demonize Sputnik for political and economic reasons at the expense of the lives lost in the meantime, and at the cost of their own economies. Anyway Russia has 3 vaccines on the market now.

    As for giving Greece 10 million, that's probably 1% of what they're being forced to pay for the American ships.
     
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    The fact they were claiming that vaccine was say even before they had time to demonstrate any larger trials simply made it untenable in tgat time frame. Theywhould to have trials even before the COVID virus was identified and understood.

    You have not shown any information of any part of your claims.

    What ships were forced by which Administration?
    How much money
    How did Greece "force" the purchase?
    What French ships were being considered?

    Don't get me wrong, the USA has unending dirty tricks and malfeasance. The requirements that ships that weren't allowed to ship supports to aid in Puerto Rico without demanding those cargo ships to rip off more than half the money that should have gone to the Puerto Ricans, for instance, is robbery since it didn't need to have US Registry.

    But these stories need to be truthful, not just stories.
     
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    The Globalresearch article is a brilliant example of forced marriage between blind hate and baseless propaganda, textbook case of unethical, hurtful journalism. I wonder how many of their readers - at least the regular crowd - ever bother to fact-check their allegations.

    The source of the Globalresearch article is Brasil Wire, a far left newspaper. While clearly biased against western democracies, the Brasil Wire article at least doesn't twist reality, as Globalresearch does, to an unrecognizable maze of dark US born conspiracies against such human rights luminaries like Russia and Cuba.

    Let's see what the US Department of Health report says:
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...l-report.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2e6pVf8LUGphBeh7sjM_56

    For Globalresearch, US normal diplomatic activity becomes "pressure", cooperation with US becomes "duress", improving ties with US becomes national tragedy, implying that only countries like Russia or Cuba should be allowed to engage in such activities. We're not presented any relevant data about the damage the US activity has allegedly done in the region. We're told that a few words from a 72 pages long document, which is itself a very small part of the US policy at the time, are a dire indictment of US seen as the source of evil, without so much as a hint as to what exactly the other side was doing in the meantime. We're supposed to take the Globalresearch journalist's word that the US is evil and the other side is all pink unicorns and fluffy bunnies, without proof.

    Globalresearch is engaging in dangerous misinformation for propaganda purposes.
     
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    I suspect that Brazil's problems are self inflicted because of Bolzanaro himself.

    Your source lacks credibility and it has probably taken the HHS report out of context in order to promote a conspiracy.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/global-research/

    The Sputnik vaccine BYPASSED normal testing protocols which was a legitimate reason to NOT approve it both here in the USA and in Brazil.
     
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    Don't they have varient viruses immune to the vaccine? Why isn't WHO sending them n95 masks to keep it contained?

    Also who held a gun to their head? Seems like they decided the Sputnik vaccine was a bad idea. Why should anyone trust Russia? Who can really know?
     
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