The false god(s) of physics

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I already educated you and wilbur on that exact point.
You have shown no such thing and damn sure didnt demonstrate anything outside the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims.
I already 'demonstrated' and taught you that space merely defines an area:

then when I put you on the hot seat:

I got the dodge:

and of course wil joins the dodge.

then you admit:

later a whole series of comments to bait me into continuing the conversation you proclaimed was off topic

hence the creation of this thread so you like the other can continue moving your goal posts all over the planet

 

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Koko - the above does not conflict with anything stated - What you claim to be "teachings" are exercises in fallacy and lack of understanding of the material - as demonstrated by you not understanding that nothing above supports your made up claim "teaching" that gravity only acts on mass.

 

"that this is what we experience as gravity"

ah so X*Y*Z does not define space?

you cant be serious, well maybe you can?

1) Prove X*Y*Z is a fallacy
2) Prove that what you 'experience' is physics!
3) Prove that what you experience as gravity is warped space! lol

 

"Prove XYZ is fallacy" ? Why on earth would someone try to do such a thing .. prove a negative or unknown. You don't understand what you are asking. ..

Regardless - have no clue why you would ask such a thing as has no bearing on the topic .. yet another trip down some unrelated rabbit hole.

 

FALSE, X*Y*Z is the definition of space.
what do you think space is if not by definition the extents of a '3D area'?

 

because they thoughtlessly claimed space warps, and then commenced to defend it LOL

Nothing important, it just proves space cant physically warp.

oops meant to add that as an edit

 

Your response makes no sense - near to the point of being moronic. Having completed University level Calculus- continuing on with differential equations - advanced linear algebra - and quantum mechanics in my 4th year .. I assure you that I am familiar with Grade 8 math - and that any point within a space can be defined by 3 coordinates

Never did I claim otherwise - once again you are making things up - and accusing others of holding a position they do not - and then running around crying "False False". ... usually followed by a rolling on the floor laughing emoticon ... should probably add some salivation to that one if you can find ..

 

It doesnt look like it, your defense is weener said so, let me (meaning you) prove it with what weeners model says, and that is circular logic fallacy.

Thats the funny thing about it and why its a religion and weener is your god.

Yes you did in fact claim 'space' can warp, of course when the seat starting getting too hot you moved the goal posts to 'Outer Space' but only after I said it first.

I doubt you have those credentials, this has been discussed with colleagues some of which have phds in physics lol either that or you are truly smitten!

Nice try though.

 

Dude - you put up grade 8 math - no Ph.D required - and this is fine .. it is your absurd practice of accusing others of denying this grade 8 math .. when they havn't - and then running around crying "False False False"

Then - when this is pointed out to you - you jump all over the map with other nonsense accusations.

I have not given a defense - merely stated what the other side of the debate has to say .. What you have not done is supported your claim .. so there is little to defend against.

 

All of physics today, including from EVERY country is FULLY aware that XYZ defines space, but that we live in XYZT - space-time.

Nobody on this board needs to "prove" that. That is a FUNDAMENTAL of all physics today. And, it has been since Einstein and others of the time pointed this out, thus eliminating the limited XYZ version of our universe.

Demanding proof of this is as silly as demanding that someone on this board prove there are atoms.

There are atoms. We live in space-time. The Earth is an oblate spheroid.

You have NO argument against the physics that is known throughout the world in all institutions of higher learning and science.

 

I know, only 5th grade math was required to prove how bogus space warping is!

Of course not there is none, not that no one will try.

Very good rahl, you admit I am correct!

False we do not live within weenees mathematical model.

People also ask
Do we live in a 3 or 4-dimensional world?

The world we live in is called the Three Dimensional World or more commonly known as the 3-D World.

No its not, that is one very small part of the whole of physics.

Ah so we are left with only T since weenee eliminated XYZ eh?
How quickly people turn things into a comedy!

So you think we are all warped? Speak for yourself please.

and we should care why? irrelevant

Right, XYZ is known and very well understood throughout the whole world.


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You people are living in a fantasy world created by your false god weenerstein and you are nonethewiser.

Now you know what a false god is

 

Lol 4 pages and koko still thinks he’s disproven Einstein and all of modern physics

 

You forgot the salivating - rolling on the floor laughing emoticons ?!

 

So much for warped space eh....
weird way to concede lol
Some physicist in wuhan china researched all weeners work and discovered nothing he did was discovered by him, he rode the coat tails of everyone else.

 

Like I said, you people worship a false god, its all make belief, and provable in the case of weinerstein.

Lets look at the latest results of your god and his disciples!

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They LIED to you!

Ligos only showed the existence of a gravitational disturbance that can be felt as a result of the changing gravity due to 2 spinning stars that caused the fluctuation you see as a sine wave on the left.

When the 2 stars stopped spinning, therefore stopped disturbing the neighborhood, gravity once again flat lined to the natural steady state of gravity which is steady state as seen on the right side of the graph.

Gravity is not a wave, if it were a wave it would continue to look like a sine wave on the left!

That said if a large source of gravity is zapped out of existence, we would feel the shock wave as everything in the cosmos readjusted to a new equilibrium.

If you vary gravity by moving a strong source closer and farther from earth the forces would appear stronger and weaker as temporary sine wave resulting from that movement then its back to its natural 'steady state' condition.

Finally weenee made no such prediction, of a gravity wave, in fact weenee predicted black holes would not exist.

 

Your source?

This is the original graph:

https://slidetodoc.com/test-of-binary-mergers-in-hierarchical-triples-lr/

This is the original article:
https://arxiv.org/abs/1708.08569

Explain.

 

It is a verifiable example of curvature of space, showing that there is nothing contradictory about the concept.

Now, you haven't described what you mean by "physically bendable properties", so I'm not sure if the example shows that space has those properties, or that in fact space doesn't need those properties to have curvature, but it does show that whatever you mean, it is not a hindrance for the concept of curvature of space. Really, the onus was on you to prove that space needed any of these bendable properties, but you don't seem quite up to speed with how science works, so I gave you a freebee.

This sounds like a very specific claim, and would need some backing up.

Well, as I did point out, that the phenomenon does not actually rely on the presence of dirt or the Earth. A person moving on a curved 2D surface in empty 3D space would see the same phenomenon, even if there was no dirt there. I could have constructed the thought experiment without an earth present, it would just be more awkward to word.

I don't think the OP challenges Relativity more than it just says nuh-huh. We have shown that the curvature of space is possible and that experiment is consistent with General Relativity. All claims you have provided are either unsubstantiated or behind paywalls (and made by people who aren't inherently reliable when it comes to understanding General Relativity).

 

Almost all of Science is riding on someone else's coat tails - thinking otherwise is perhaps part of the confusion you are experiencing - but, one need not throw the baby out with the bath water. For example - just because Einstein was Jewish is no reason to think that everything he did was wrong.

 

Prove that space physically bent.

little late 'after' claiming spce bent.

thats it when your well is dry pretend its all about race.

Here is a magnet wave detector warping space, proving the existence of a magnet wave lol

 

You're flip flopping between different arguments. The pole-walkers examples shows that there is nothing fundamentally illogical about the concept of curved space. The gravitational waves show that waves caused by gravity correspond to shifts of space.

Not as late as your back up for Hatch's theory, aether as a whole or those "physically bendable properties".

 

Look at your responses - the above to 4 different posters - I have no idea what it is about - but it is your well that is dry.

You come in claiming the scientific community is wrong - demonizing Einstein - calling him a wienie. - which is fine. It would not be the first time some scientist has gotten something wrong - or the community at the time .. but this is the thing about science .. it is constantly correcting itself - getting better with time .. we know more now than in the time of Einstein for example.

The problem is that if you are going to challenge established science - time dilation - the theory that says the fabric of space can bend -curve.for example .. then it is up to you to provide material to support your claim ..

What is not support for claim is.

1) Running around crying "Prove it" Prove it" Prove that Space bends - as this commits the prove a negative fallacy.

Examples - The fact that you can not prove God Exists - does not mean God does not exist. That someone can not prove space can bend - does not support your claim that it is not.

2) Demonizing the Messenger - aka Ad Hom Fallacy -

For example - Running around crying "Einstein is a wienie" - does not support your claim that space can not bend.

3) So and so on this website said this - who cares - where does this fellow prove that space can not bend and/or that show that the claim of the Scientific Community that it does indeed bend - are wrong..

Since this is all you have done - it is you with the dry well.

I am simply claiming - look dude - this is what Science currently states . you want to claim otherwise - have at it. The problem is that thus far - you have shown zero support for claim .. and thus - why on earth would I take your story - over that of current scientific thought ?

 

False. you said unequivocally space bends and gave an example, nice dodge!

until the day arises that you can show something with no physical properties as I have already cited several times, can physically be bent, its nothing more than your imagination.

no Im not that is the argument, should have read the thread before you let your keyboard off the chain.

space is defined by X*Y*Z, not log10X, Y^3, Z^2, when they change the definition of space let me know, until then

The magnets show magnet waves caused by magnetism which correspnds to shifts of space.

yep you want to litigate on behalf of weener dont demand I prove your case for you, you have the obligation to prove space bends.

Im not the one who claimed space 'physically' bends, in fact you did. We can all see you have nothing what so ever to prove your point.

I dont have a problem with time dilation, I have a problem with weenees time dilation.

Fabric? The one in your imagination? What fabric? I never saw any space fabric, lets see it, prove this bendable fabric exists.

Again you are wasting your time if you think I am going to prove space bends for you. thats egg you can lick off your face.

Proof you made it up, thank you!


I should have known this would devolve into absurd foolishness trying to debate gravity physics with people that dont even understand field theory 101. I would have thought the magnet quip would have woke a few people up, but then one needs a basic understanding of physics for that too,,,,~sigh~

 

I don't have to prove anything of the sort - you have been told 10 times now -- this is the scientific consensus. .. running around crying "prove it" "prove it" will not change this fact .. and since you have offered nothing to support the contrary position .. I will accept the consensus position .. simple

 

space cannot bend by some force acting upon it, space is a purely abstract definition for area, you seem to be oblivious to the plethora of distinctions that float right on by, which is the whole point here, its your claim, anyone can parrot consensus, you are the one to claim you have university physics education yet you show nothing to convince anyone that is true.