Biden announced he will send massive amounts of cash to the illegal Palestinians

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://www.westernjournal.com/bide...nces-sending-palestinians-major-cash-payment/

    Palestine is not a recognized country. It is a collection of Arabs.

    So why is Biden shipping your money to them?

    Beats me. Why do you think he is doing that?

     
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    Palestinians are now illegal? What in the world are you blabbering about?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What are you blabbering about?

    Here are all countries that start with the letter P as the first part of the name.

    https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/
     
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    When I was born in 1940 there was a large country called Palestine in the Middle East World Map, no mention of anything called Israel???
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was born in 1938 prior to the CIA world fact book. Check that out.

    Can you explain when this alleged country (Palestine)was created and who recognizes it? The USA does not.

    Anyway it seems highly irregular for Biden to hand them the funds belonging to the citizens of the USA.
     
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    Only if you are profoundly ignorant of not only what has been happening for decades, but what has been proposed.

    The US has been giving hundreds of milions of dollars to Palestinians for decades. Republicans and Democrats. The Trump Administration gave over half a billion US dollars to the Palestinians. The 'Trump Peace Plan' proposed spending US$28 billion in the West Bank & Gaza strip. None of this is secret or hidden information. It is widely known among informed people and very easy to find out.

    So, the US giving money to the Palestinians is not 'irregular', but 'normal'. Biden is simply doing what US Presidents have done for decades.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Given you provided no proof, I am to rely only on your word.

    Did you approve Trump handing over millions of dollars to the people called Palestinians?

    Trump cuts more than $200 million in U.S. aid to Palestinians
    By David Brunnstrom

    5 MIN READ


    Trump clearly was headed in the right direction.
     
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    I provided two links that amply back up my claims. You provided none when you claimed it was 'irregular'. When I say something it is backed up by fact. You need to pay better attention, not just here, but generally.

    I didn't care if Trump paid them money or not and I don't care if Biden does. You apparently didn't care when Trump paid hundreds of millions but siddenly you care now that Biden is paying a tiny fraction of that.

    Of course there was no admission that you got it wrong and no walking back claims that giving money to the Palestinians is 'irregular'. No surprises there. Yet again you get caught out spouting ignorance and yet again you just pretend it didn't happen. Just another day on PF.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, hidden links is your game. I had to do a mine sweep over your post to find those links. Clever how you hid both of them.

    What you forgot is the whole story. Where Trump slashed 200 million but laid out a plan to put some of that back into Palestinians banks along with funds for other Arab areas.

    I would not want Trump to do that. And you don't care.

     
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    Palestine was a territory, not a country.

    In 1940 there was no mention on the World Map of anything called Pakistan.
     
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    Only because Palestine, the territory, won't agree to negotiate for its recognition. It won't accept any option where Isreal is recognized as a state as well.
     
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    Game? Dear me. I just put the links in the appropriate place in the post. If you weren't paying enough attention to read them then you definately aren't paying enough attention to be constantly offering ill informed opinions online.

    Yet again no acknowledgement that you are in the wrong. Even when you don't pay attention it is somehow somebody else's fault. Try taking responsibility for once.

    I didn't 'forget' anything, I just didn't see the point in giving a point by point history of decades of giving money to the Palestinians. I only intended to point out that giving money to the Palestinians is a normal practice, which I did. Clearly you aren't someone who is capable of understanding detail, so why waste my time giving it?

    Oh dear, not good with tenses, are we? You would not have wanted Trump to do that. Past tense. Of course, you didn't know. Why do you think that is Robert? Why is it that you know about Biden giving a few million, but you had no idea Trump was giving hundreds of millions and planned to give billions more? Is it just that you consume such prejudiced media that it only fills your head with propaganda, or are you just not paying attention?

    Of course, now you can conveniently claim you would have opposed something you said nothing about when Trump did it, and maintain your hollow and ill informed outrage against Biden for doing the same. How convenient.

    I swear US conservatives get dumber by the day. Perhaps if they learned to take responsibility for informing themselves that might change, but there seems almost to be a pride in ignorance.

    Congratulations Robert, you got something right. Sure, it was something I told you in my last post, but based on your performance thus far that is progress. I don't much care about what happens with the Palestinians. Certainly not enough to care about who does or does not give them money.

    Of course, you only care when Democrats do it, thus illustrating the difference between a position based on some sort of principle and a position based on partisan politics.
     
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    This non-partisan behavior to give away my tax money to other countries is one of many reasons I hate both parties.

    Trump lost my respect when he kept caving. His grandstanding to force congress to fix their budget was just that, grandstanding. He never did what had to be done.
     
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    Trump is heading for jail..Yes, the right direction.
     
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    What does cutting aid to foreign nations have to do with jail time? Is that what globalists consider treason? Does putting America First mean jail time now?
     
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    Biden is tip-toeing around US laws that didn't exist before 2015, prohibiting funding the PA or other specific entities in the existing circumstances: the Taylor force act and the House appropriations bill (starting on page 1428, see also page 1451). Only humanitarian assistance is allowed, and I don't think security and law enforcement qualify.
     
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    Just because Palestine isn't a recognized country makes Palestinians "illegal"?
    Kurdistan isn't a recognized country either, so Kurds must be "illegal" too I guess.
    I'm not surprised that someone making such an idiotic claim cannot find a link in a comment.
    face palm
     
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    Robert has history of creating threads based on ignorance especially when he tries to attack Democrats
     
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    Yes indeed. Also a history of taking zero reponsibility for his ignorance and ultimately just running away. I don't feel the requirement to be even tiny bit polite to someone like that. They are choosing to be ignorant and choosing to propagandize. They deserve less than zero respect.

    The fact that some people here actually support these threads & give his posts 'likes' speaks to a deep sickness in American conservatism.
     
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    Thought you were a Christian Robert, still I suppose if those Christians in need of help are just a collection of Arabs they do not count, even though its the birthplace of Christianity and the oldest Christian community in the world!

    Palestine’s Christian population is dwindling at an alarming rate. The world’s most ancient Christian community is moving elsewhere. And the reason for this is Israel.

    Christian leaders from Palestine and South Africa sounded the alarm at a conference in Johannesburg on October 15. Their gathering was titled: “The Holy Land: A Palestinian Christian Perspective”.

    One major issue that highlighted itself at the meetings is the rapidly declining number of Palestinian Christians in Palestine.

    A population census carried out by the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics in 2017 concluded that there are 47,000 Palestinian Christians living in Palestine – with reference to the Occupied West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip. 98 percent of Palestine’s Christians live in the West Bank – concentrated mostly in the cities of Ramallah, Bethlehem and Jerusalem – while the remainder, a tiny Christian community of merely 1,100 people, lives in the besieged Gaza Strip.

    https://www.westernjournal.com/bide...nces-sending-palestinians-major-cash-payment/

    Let me guess you have never heard of Jerusalem and Bethlehem?
     
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    Your source is not reliable. Jerusalem is not in Palestine. Anti-Zionists' wet dream of wrestling Jerusalem from Jews does not reality make, and reality tells us that Jerusalem is de facto in Israel regardless of what some people think of it. So much for the rest of the article you quoted.

    The Christian population is dwindling all over the Middle East, not only in Palestine. How's that Israel's fault?

    Here's a hint:
    https://www.refworld.org/docid/47bea840c.html

    It was Arafat's PLO - the same organization ruling the Palestinian Authority right now - that murdered Christians in Damour, sparking the Lebanese civil war.

    In fact, the Christian population is dwindling all over the Middle East except for Israel, the only place where they are proudly reclaiming their Aramean roots.
     
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    You appear confused Pisa, is there a place called Palestine or not?

    The point of my post was to show Robert that rather than just a "collection of Arabs" Palestine is also the home of the oldest Christian community in the world. Does the source I used not show that? Is it not reliable on the specific point I showed? I do not care about what anti zionists dream about, I do not mention them and I do not dream about Jerusalem. Yet again you have attacked a strawman that you created, perhaps that is because you defend Israel when it is not being attacked such is your zealotry.

    Now how about you back off and keep your zealotry to yourself.
     
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    And the reason for this is Israel - where's the explanation to this claim?
     
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    Oh look another one! Can you deny the claim that Palestine is the home to the oldest community of Christians and not just a "collection of Arabs" which was my point, or are you going to chase the strawman about whose fault it is they are leaving Palestine which I did not mention in my commentary to the article.
     
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