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  1. Distraff

    Distraff Well-Known Member

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    Not to nitpick but that is CONTRADICTIONS, not contractions. ;)

    And yes, it is a really cool graphic.
     
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    All of which can be answered. There are no contradictions. Their are errors in translation over the millenniums.
    Abram (Abraham) had one genuine son of his wife Sarah who could be the fulfillment of God's promise regarding his seed. He had another son by the maidservant Hagar and several others later by a second wife, but in his heart Isaac was his only son. This is also why he cut off all the others from inheritance. Notice the wording of Heb. 11:17 indicates that even though he had other sons, yet to him it was as if he were offering up his only begotten to whom the promise was made.
    Besides, does anyone really believe that the writer of Hebrews was unaware of some well-known teachings about Abraham or had not read Genesis? Also, the writer of Hebrews is obviously screening out stuff to focus on topics related to faith. Hagar's son was not the product of faith, and thus not worthy of mention in this context.
     
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    There’s quite a few contradictions, it’s RIGHT there.
     
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    The Bible = fairy tales for the simple minded. I knew it first time I set foot in a church. One of my uncles on my father's side is an Episcopal minister.
     
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    I think the bible has a lot of universal truths in there. But I think some of its teachings have been corrupted by man for purposes of control of the masses. The key is to cross examine many spiritual sources, from other religions and spiritual traditions, as well as meditation, so that you can separate the truth from the garbage. Anyone who tells you "you must believe this or burn in hell" is full of **** or just lost spiritually.
     
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    I'm sorry that reading comprehension is a problem you have. This is not a contradiction. It's a matter of comprehension. The term "begotten" refers to the spiritual connection in the flesh as was with Jesus Christ. Isaac would be the seed that would yield up the Christ. Ishmael would not yield that seed nor would be the seed that the "law" would go through. While the people for centuries would be obedient to God, they would eventually perverse their obedience. Isaac was Abrahams only begotten son and the event of sacrifice of Isaac would be a similitude of Jesus Christ so that Abraham would understand his need to teach Isaac to be obedient to the Lord. Hope that helps.
    Many times bible critics are simply to literal while at the same time say the bible isn't to be taken literally. Such hypocrisy.
     
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    The contradictions are a result of taking the Bible too literally. Most Christians recognize there is a lot of allegory and symbolism not intended to be taken literally.
     
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    Good posts.

    But no man can make them see whom God has intentionally blinded.

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    Indeed. The Bible is filled with imagery and symbolism.

    Take Isaiah 14:12-15 for example. Many misinterpret 'Lucifer falling from heaven' as a fallen angel. But as the text at the beginning of the chapter [Isaiah 14:4] tells us, it is a taunt against the powerful king of Babylon and foretells his fall [to Cyrus" Medes and Persians.] The previous chapter, Isaiah 13, refers to God's army [Medes and Persians] coming from the ends of heaven to destroy Babylon. Isaiah 13:17 tells us that God's army does not regard silver or delight in gold. In other words, they could not be bought off by wealthy Babylon who is Daniel 2's head of gold [Media/Persia were the arms of silver who symbolically and literally cut off the golden head of Babylon.]

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    Thats what I get for making a post at 1:45 AM.
     
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    :roflol:

    Understood, I do it myself from time to time. ;)
     
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    I'm afraid I've gotten between you and fantasy and mythology. You can pretend those obvious contradictions aren't so but everyone else can see them as plain as day. This is why religions hurt society, they encourage mental gymnastics and discourage critical thinking.
     
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    No, they are plain in your mind because you have a predisposition to hate God and attack Him and the scriptures. You have no ability to comprehend the meaning of the scriptures and the language of the prophets. Instead, you use the language and meaning of atheists and God-haters, anti-Christs and 666ers.
    I'll give you some true understanding here. Jesus Christ is not the only son of God. We are all sons and daughters of our Heavenly Father. What do I mean by that. This isn't understood my most of Christianity either. We were literally born to our Heavenly Father (and Mother) in spirit body form in our pre-earth life. Our intelligence was placed in those spirit bodies and we become spirit sons and daughters of Heavenly Father. That's why we call each other brother and sister. We literally are.
    There is the Gospel and then there is the fulness of the Gospel. Most have just the Gospel or just the Bible. I have more through current day prophets. So, I understand more than you do and I'm trying to share this with you. So, I stand on my response that there are no contradictions in the Bible. Just misunderstanding of the Scriptures and their meanings.
     
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    Contradictions and logical fallacies certainly pose serious problems for texts claiming to be the Word of God.

    In the case of Islam, Iranian rationalist Ali Dashti subjected the Qur'an to such scrutiny in his book 23 Years, and the text is riddled with contradictions and logical fallacies that are strikingly similar to those found in the Book of Mormon.

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    https://www.amazon.com/Twenty-Three-Years-Prophetic-Mohammad/dp/1568590296

    It's actually a very fascinating and fair-minded book, and non-Muslims who are interested in learning more about Islam and its prophet would do well to put it on their reading list.
     
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    No it is you who has a comprehension problem, Begotten means to bring a child into existence by means of reproduction. You are simply changing the meaning of words to suit your religious biases.
     
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    I think you're confused. I don't hate any gods.

    I'll say it again. I have no reason to hate the abrahamic god, krishna, ares, buri, or snoopy. they all fictional characters until proven otherwise and that's pretty unlikely. there is no more reason to take the bible literally than the prose edda. there is no evidence whatsoever that we are anything but mildly amusing meatbags. I get that some people really need this kind of soft structure in their life as a way of answering the hard questions, and many of those people will believe anything at all to keep that bubble. I'm pretty well read as far as religions go, and that chart shows the exact contradictions as written. I'm not telling you what to believe or not believe, I'm just saying that none of that is history- it's mythology.
     
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    What's interesting is that this thread is about contradictions, but so far not a single one of these alleged contradictions has actually been brought up.



    Many of these just appear to be contradictions, when the statements are taken in isolation, but are actually not when the context of those statements are looked at.

    Linguistically, it's just impractical to be entirely technically accurate all the time. People will say things that are not entirely fully true all the time just to convey a message, without making it so complicated it would take impractically hard effort to understand. The context of the statement matters.
     
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    That looks like a good read! I'm going to check it out.
     
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    I clicked on three of those alleged contradictions in the link at random, and they were not contradictions at all.

    It suggests there is a huge amount of mental laziness on the part of those identifying these supposed "contradictions".
     
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    One possible example is the exception for divorce in the case of "unfaithfulness". That might be a mistranslation, the original word might have actually been referring to an invalid marriage in the first place, for example if you married your brother's wife while he was still living, or married a woman who was already married. In that case, you would obviously not be bound to stay in that marriage.
     
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    I bought the book, but you can check it out here for free:

    Twenty Three Years:
    A Study of the Prophetic Career of Mohammad

    by Ali Dashti
    https://1400years.org/books/twentythreeyearsEN.pdf
     
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    Once again, you are unable to comprehend scripture and the meaning of the words in context of God and spirituality. You try to define a word based on secular understanding. That will never work. Therefore, there are no other contradictions.
     
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    There are no contradictions.
     

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