Russian Tanks Cross Border Into Ukraine

The same type of "relationship" as the scribes and pharisees no doubt!

This evil end of the age is filled with deluded demented antichrist baalists who call themselves, "Christians".

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Lol, you may see one if you look in the mirror! You sound a lot like some monty python skits I saw. "NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!"

 

Russia is watching the USA, they are waiting for us to destroy ourselves from within, and they are using social media to try and help things along

 

Maybe third to USA and China, but I get your point.

 

Well
If YOU don't want to debate with us filthy commie rat Infidels
(Us Vile, Evil AntiChrist's - eg Us people whom YOU don't agree with)
.... ...... Then what in Hell are YOU doing on Political Forums ?
..Or are YOU here to preach to the Choir? - I think you're in the wrong church bother

... Well

........... SO a big ... sieg smheils to Yah Tejas !
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https://nationalinterest.org/blog/t...d-documents-gorbachev-told-nato-wouldnt-23629

At the heart of the issue is energy, the fact that the west is running out of energy and they are using NATO to force Putin into submission because Russia and the Black Sea have plenty of energy.

https://warnews247.gr/defteri-eisig...oukrania-to-diakyvevma-einai-poly-megalytero/

basically America have maybe 10 years of oil left....maybe 20 years of gas, this is why they are waging war on their own citizens (the people who use more oil than any other country), turning their back on Saudi Arabia and embracing Iran...and using Nato against Russia...the end goal energy.

Basically if you have energy and it cannot be exploited by the west you are the enemy
If your economy uses more energy than what they determined, you will be targeted with a fake climate change agenda.

Now for the really bad news, if we stayed on a gold standard, then

a) governments would not have been able to build up vast military capabilities that can potentially destroy the planet
b) we would not have the wealth inequality that force the majority of people on the planet to live in poverty and allow the 1% to own two thirds of all wealth.
c) we would have at least another 50 to 100 years to come up with an oil alternative or make the transition, because we would have had less economic activity.

It all goes back to the heart of the financial system....and oil. Sadly there's all these people waiting for the economy to bounce but the reality is they can't afford for the economy to return to previous levels...so they virus, lock down and climate change us into less economic activity.

 

Not to mention all this stimulus spending is going to have to be paid for.

 

I see it differently. We broke up Yugoslavia and then Serbia by pitting the different groups against one another. We destroyed Syria with continuous war so we could overthrow Assad its duly elected leader and weaken it by breaking it into separate ethnic and religious entities. We encouraged two wars in Chechnya to break up the Russian Federation, not to mention our continuous propaganda, bribes, etc.

If we ended up in a civil war, it would be well deserved. The remedy to me as a Christian is repentance for our actions, but I'm not seeing it. What I'm seeing is more war mongering by our administration and interference in foreign countries.

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I love Ukraine, for all the gain that they have given me.
And will not wane in throwing blame for all their misery,
on Russia with its evil men who haven't done them right
and send them arms for all those harms
to help them win their fight. Good luck! - Jeannette
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As an aside, a colleague of mine that works in Crimea says that things improved vastly after Russia anexed it. In terms of wealth, infrastructure, education etc. Every measure. Implicitly he says Ukranians are incompetent and corrupt.

FYI there are four Russians to every Ukrainian in Crimea.

 

I'm simply mentioning this because we are trained to think of Ukraine as the good guys and russia the bad guys. But it's amazing what you hear when you talk to somebody that actually lives and works there.

 

yep, I have heard that too

some say Trump wanted the virus to spread and the reason Trump shutdown the economy is that he knew the economy was failing, and the only way for him to inject trillions into the mega corps was to use the virus crisis to do so, if that did not work, he would blame it on the virus, win\win either way as far as Trump was concerned

 

Yes, they had tremendous success in past 4 years and they know the GOP will oppose Biden across the board no matter what issue, which makes them very predictable and easy to manipulate.

 

Your comment will fall on deaf ears when it comes to most Americans. Even though we have the internet/video sharing websites/cheap international travel and can relatively easily get into Russia for tourism....things we didn't have just a few decades ago....your typical American still believes every bit of cold war propaganda spewed by our fake news media. Most are too lazy to lift a finger and do their own due diligence, they'd rather just sit on their overweight asses and watch the boob tube.

And who knew the Soviets had '80s music just like here.

 

How about some reality?

US bombing of Raqqa:

 

Oh, and I thought the mega corps love the Dems and hate Trump. Thanks for setting us straight.

 

Crimea was Ukraine's poor step son. Kiev neglected it deliberately, so the Russians would leave, but they didn't. The worse off were the Tatars, since the Ukrainians feared them coming back knowing that Turkey would have a claim on Crimea. One of the first things Russia did was better the living condition of the Tatars.

The Russian laws are much stricter than the Ukrainian ones, so there's less corruption and investments have been pouring in, regardless of the sanctions imposed by the US and others.

 

Your logic is strange. Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan .... the Baltic territories (Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia), as well as Alaska and Calfornia are historically the territory of Russia. The Baltic countries, for example, were bought from the Swedes by the Russian Tsar Peter 1. Therefore, according to any moral, legal and other laws, all these territories belong to the Russians.
Of course, in this historical time, not all of these territories are controlled by the Russians, but sooner or later Russia will return these lands to its composition.
As for the people living in these territories, then, as you rightly noted, everyone who does not like joining Russia can go anywhere.

 

But the fun begins after the first missile exchange.
The economies of Russia and the United States will equalize instantly. Only the Russians, who are always at war, are accustomed to hardships. And you? In Russia, since the times of the USSR, public transport and emergency food supply in emergency situations, as well as other measures in the event of hostilities, have been excellently established.
In the USA, if we remember how the events took place after Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, I think everything will be much more complicated. Especially considering the dependence of American cities on electricity, running water and other economic life support systems.
Well? Do you still want to try to destroy the Russians?

 

Yes..

Hardship for us.
Destruction for them.

 

I don't know what to make of this.

Russia, China warn Biden at same time to stay out of Ukraine, Taiwan

https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...e=quayle&utm_campaign=alt&utm_medium=facebook

 

Thats funny....I also know someone in Ukraine ....that was based in Krym before all this $hitshow...and basically says opposite....that the Russkis were corrupt and incompetent. Situation vast improved....yeah, I hear Krym is going dry, beaches half empty, prices skyrocketed for basically everything, ethnic minorities being kidnapped,tortured, etc(Tatars,Ukrainians).....great progress it seems. If the atmosphere was so great in Krym the Russkis should be flocking to the beaches....not booking their holidays abroad.

But as much as I hate to say this....offloading Krym and LDPR may have been an indirect blessing for Ukraine. Why it removes this pro Russian element from Ukrained govt and should make their ascension to NATO/EU much easier.

Krym was a major $$$ drain on Ukraines budget for infrastructure and you had these corrupt mongrel Russkis like this Aksyonov (Putinkas dick licker), and other oligarchs skimming off allocated $$$ for any kind of development in Krym. DPR not much different....basically a Muscovian mafia hell hole? What's been the development in DPR last 6 yrs....no airport,24/7 Stalinist propaganda, lost generation of younger people, seniors crossing into Ukraine for pensions,kidnappings,tortures, anything else I miss?

 

I think that's the very same thing the CIA said when they started flying U2 spy planes over the Soviet Union, after all those stupid Rookies didn't have the military capability to shoot down a plane flying at 70,000 feet. Then they shot Francis Gary Powers ass straight out of the sky.

Always underestimating the Russians, it's the American way. Sputnik, Gregarin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vostok_1

Dayton, in your spare time why don't you dig out a map of the US. Notice most all of the large cities are on the coasts, or close. Do you have any idea that Russia subs and ships can sit in international waters and launch nukes that could hit downtown NYC within 30 seconds? Washington DC within 90 seconds? Los Angeles within 30 seconds? Houston within 60 seconds? Boston, 30, Miami, 30, San Francisco, 30, New Orleans, 30.

Got the picture yet? You can beat your chest all you want from the confines of Minot, North Dakota or wherever you are but this is a game you don't want to start since you're likely not to win.

 

Wasn't this the Biden/Harris campaign slogan: VOTE DP FOR WAR WITH RUSSIA AND CHINA AT THE SAME TIME! HOORAH!

That stupidity thing can get us killed - fast.

 

Silly man.....US boomer subs sit quietly just offshore from Vladivostok, the very westernmost tip of Aleutian Islands is barely pissing distance from the Russki shore...Shemya AFB, there's probably several Ohio class attack subs just off Baltic coast....20 sec max....St Pete is a crater 10 X bigger than Grand Canyon...same as Moscow, Gambell Alaska just across the street from Provideniya,Anadyr on Chukhotsk peninsula, Barents Sea also has attack subs, every square mile of Resource Federation the Pentagon has mapped for blanket coverage....you really wanna play a game you will definitely lose?


BTW I'm in Dakotas, been to Minot AFB, 91st Air wing key turners, if im right......those will land in Siberia....so if any Russkis think they can withstand some strike from US....go all in.

Gagarin/Sputnik i hear....ya don't say??....When I see a Russki flag on the moon.....I just might see your point.