Understanding God

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  1. Theordox

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    God did not create the heavens and the earth , physics did .

    God created animal life , physics can't form animal life .
     
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    Well, we're getting close:
    https://www.livescience.com/3214-life-created-lab.html
    Quote:
    "Now scientists have created something in the lab that is tantalizingly close to what might have happened. It's not life, they stress, but it certainly gives the science community a whole new data set to chew on.
    The researchers, at the Scripps Research Institute, created molecules that self-replicate and even evolve and compete to win or lose. If that sounds exactly like life, read on to learn the controversial and thin distinction."

    It's just a matter of time and then your god is redundant.
     
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    Scientists will never create consciousness or life's formation . I did not read the article sorry because I don't think scientifically that creating anything in labs is logically a good idea . (p.s they use existing matter)

    They could potentially , unintentional create mindless micro organisms that escape the lab , that may have adverse affect on conscious life forms .
     
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    Saying "God did it" is not an explanation, because it is not tied to any objective evidence.
     
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    Exactly, it just pushes the unknown one stage further away.
     
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    They will.
    If you don't want to educate yourself then that's your problem.
    So you complain that we can't create life and then say we shouldn't try.
    Maybe you're scared that we will.
    Then you won't have a god to worship.
     
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    Define God ?

    Prove that we evolved on Earth ?

    If Darwin was correct , then why haven't we ever seen humans walking out of the jungle who use to be apes ?
     
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    You cannot define that which does not exist.

    There's plenty of proof for the origin of species by means of natural selection - just look for it.

    There are plenty of fossils of species intermediate between apes and humans, just google it.
     
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    "...the expression and product of human weaknesses..." according to Big Al :thumbsup: :trophy:
     
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    Earth is not made of cells , planets are ''spherical'' , atoms have no design , how can human form grow from nothing ?
     
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    This is nonsense.
     
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    Quite clearly you failed to answer the question asked and are now trying to pass the question off as nonsense .

    The human form is complex and grows into form , humans are designs of intelligence that are not like any other physical elements .

    Physics can't explain human information sequencing , designed to be specific form and intelligence .
     
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    Personally... I think that God is a Scientist / Inventor who is composed of fundamental energy that predated the Big Bang by infinite time.

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/mellen-thomas-benedict.html#a05

     
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    Quite clearly you failed in biology.
     
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    DNA sequencing is the source code of human form and design intelligence but you can go teach yourselves because I'm not going to bother explaining biotech nano intelligent design to you .
     
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    Darling Darwin wasnt correct, there are several human/species disconnects on the planet
    Science has never proven that, citations please?
    Oh yeh the contemporary failure in physics.
    Any more than the big bang LOL
    Saying physics did is BS
    Quite clearly you failed physics!
    Just like inee!
    Please do.
    Learn your scientific metaphysics, distinction with no difference
     
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    It depends how you define God. If your God is a creature described in the Bible – He created the heavens, the earth and the animal life. If you define God as the reason the heavens, the earth and the animal life exist – we have no f***cken idea what this reason is, but sure there are laws when and how the life comes to existence. Quite possible that soon we will create a conscience based on electronics.
     
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    cant wait till that leaks out of wuhan, give humans some competition! :roflol:
    Replicators are coming!
    whose conscience?
     
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    It looks that you need to learn more about the evolution theory, your question is answered.
     
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    I have a better question - how humane can believe in fairy tale stories when the scientists can prove the fairy tale stories are only fairy tale stories?
     
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    You mean dark matter?, Big Bang?, Space fabric?, Warped time? Warped space?, Time travel? Do tell! o_O

    Contradiction!
     
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    I am a scientist and I can explain everything in regards to quantum mechanics including prequel Big Bang physics . However , although a scientific genius I cannot explain our own existence because we are are the 5th elements , fire , wind , water , dust and the intricate structure of us .
     
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    false, all you have is hypothesis, metaphysics, what you would like to 'believe' it is, not an explanation if we define explanation as truthful/factual, based in scientific methods, not to forget falsifiablility.
     
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    That lines up pretty well with the literal translation (YLT) of Genesis 1:1-3

    1 In the beginning of God's preparing the heavens and the earth --
    2 the earth hath existed waste and void, and darkness [is] on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God fluttering on the face of the waters,
    3 and God saith, `Let light be;' and light is


    The heavens and the earth existed prior to the creation story. God may have created them, but it isn't specified, so also maybe they came from wherever God came from. The first step of preparing them for creation was to shine light on the earth.
     
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    500 years ago the best scientist could not explain diseases, storms, lightnings, sound and many other things, so don't despair, we are on the good path and many things you cannot explain today, some day we will have an explanation.
     

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