Racism under the name of 'racial equity' is still just that: Racism.

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  1. ShadowX

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    Do you think that might have something to do with the fact that blacks represent 13% of the total population and yet they commit approximately:

    50% of the total murder
    40% of the total assault
    55% of the total robberies
    30% of the total forcible rape and
    40% of the violent arson?
     
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    How do you know what will happen....have you never been wrong about something?
     
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    So you're okay with non whites as long they say what you want to hear....
     
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    You came up with those calculations all by yourself?
     
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    Let me ask it another way. Let’s assume that you’re a police chief and you have 100 officers and 10 precincts in which you need to provide safety and protections.

    9 of these precincts are predominantly white and TOGETHER they account for 50% of your violent crime. Making each white precinct responsible for 5.6% of your total violent crime.

    Now your last district is predominantly black and that ONE district makes up 50% of your total violent crime.

    Are you going to evenly distribute your 100 officers across each precinct? Or are you going to send a disproportionate amount to the ONE district which is responsible for 50% of your violent crime?
     
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    Are you suggesting a cop can tell the difference between an African's skin and an African American's skin?
     
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    No.

    But what does that have to do with deliberately stopping people because they have dark skin?
     
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    Because most of the time the “profiling” occurs in violent crime and/or drug ridden neighborhoods. Which surprise are mostly minority non-white neighborhoods. So the people getting stopped end up being non-white minorities. Because they’re in the neighborhoods with all the violence and drug crime.
     
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    Those statistics are about 50/50...and in some areas blacks are in the lower percentage.
    I'm not sure that reasoning would hold up in court
     
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    Do you actually have statistics for that...or just your opinion
     
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    Okay let’s try this another way. Let’s assume you have two people in front of you and you can only stop one. You know a murder occurred in the area but you have no other information.

    Person A belongs to a group which makes up 65% of the total population and that group is responsible for approximately 45% of the total murder.

    Person B belongs to a group which makes up 13% of the total population and that group is responsible for approximately 52% of the total murder.

    Who are you going to stop?
     
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    I confess that’s just my logical conclusion.
     
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    You don't.
     
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    Yep that's real abominable
     
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    Ahhh but we don’t have enough boxes for everyone do we?
    A more accurate depiction would be that the fence is too high for anyone to see over. But we only have three boxes. What do you do then?

    The liberals today say we should find whichever of the three fits into the most victimized category and help them. Regardless of what it means for the rest.

    So in this scenario the little guy would get all three boxes and the other two would be expected to use their height privilege to figure out how to see over the wall. And the leftists call that equity.
     
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    Probably call for backup to stop the one I can't get to and give them any info I have...at that point in time both are suspects
    regardless of color. Where I grew up, it was white people that committed the crimes.
    Personally...I have no reason to believe they are any less guilty than blacks...statistics or not
     
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    Not allowed.
     
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    And it would be.
     
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    1) Many Feminists blame all men due to the fact that proportionally more men commit crimes. Men do commit about 7 times more crimes with notable exception of child abuse. But most men are not criminal.

    2) Anti-Semitism is based on blaming Jews for Jewish Communists. Leon Trotsky was not Totalitarian -- he stood for Freedom and Equality for everyone. He stood for farmers, workers, and poor people against billionaires and millionaires.
     
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    It would have gone forty years had the NAACP been willing to settle for the fact that they had finally succeeded and gone home. But too many of them decided it would be more profitable to keep pretending the dead horse of racism was still an issue. The real problem for most African Americans today is the destruction of the family by the welfare state and the criminality and drug dependency that it has led to.
     
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    I do not disagree, same is true of laws that benefit Christians over other beliefs

    we need to help all groups equally based on need.... not race, religion or gender

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2012/7/6/1106793/--Vouchers-can-be-used-for-Muslim-Schools-OOPS

     
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    1) The problem of perpetuation of racial discrimation is indeed a problem. A HUGE problem.

    2) It's not a matter of 'ignoring' it. it's a matter of acknowledging that it has to STOP, and STOPPING it. Those who can't bear the thought of calling time on institutional racism, have personal issues with race which supersede the actual problem. I would say that's fairly obvious - if you need racism to exist and continue.

    3) Stastically, you're more likely to be richer and better educated than whites if you are non-white. You need to make peace with that reality.
     
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    Because when genies are out of bottles, there's no getting them back in. It's the most profound naivety (or superiority ... not sure which) to go with the fantasy that white people are so evolved and great that they won't turn that discrimination back on you for another round. Of COURSE they will. Why in heck wouldn't they? They've been hammered to death about the evils of discrimination, and the right to redress. They will be in exactly the same position you claim non-whites are in now .. and YOU will have created that monster. It won't be your ancestors, it will be you. Here and now, in the 21stC ... doing what shitty people did until kids in the late 20thC said "ENOUGH!".
     
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    It is - it's completely terrible. The least just system imaginable.

    Your diagram - if these are fixed height people, rather than an adult and kids - indicates that the guy on the left gets nothing because he had the misfortune to be born tall. That's absolutely discrimination. When we predicate largess upon imutables like race/sex/height, we are engaging in something entirely unrelated to equality, and very related to bigotry.

    Do you want equality, or do you want discrimination?
     

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