Texas. Acquired "fairly" / Stolen

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Moi621, Apr 24, 2021.

?

Texas. Acquired "fairly" / Stolen

  1. Fair

    12 vote(s)
    57.1%
  2. Stolen

    3 vote(s)
    14.3%
  3. Other - explain please

    6 vote(s)
    28.6%
  1. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    16,389
    Likes Received:
    12,962
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah...never understood that part. Why confess? God is all knowing right? No need to confess when He already knows. And I'm not the type to fret over things I cannot change. What will be, will be.



    What will be, will be.
     
  2. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Messages:
    12,832
    Likes Received:
    5,961
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Point taken. But Hispanics are from all over, Spain, Central America, South America, the islands, Puerto Rico, Cuba, and Mexico. The topic though is whether Texas belongs to the United States or to Mexico. But I agree that we should be an English speaking nation because it is our founding and dominant tongue, and one language is conducive to cohesion. More important though is liberty and equal rights. No matter from where one hails originally, to embrace our nations founding values is the greater thing. For instance, my Senator from Florida is Marco Rubio, of Cuban heritage. But he is an American who fully embraces our founding values because they are human and divine. He is a good man or good American in my opinion. As long as the values in our Constitution and Declaration of Independence are intact, upheld, and embraced, we are never conquered but are made stronger as brothers/sisters in freedom.
     
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2021
    roorooroo likes this.
  3. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2013
    Messages:
    19,292
    Likes Received:
    7,606
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Dear Texans & Other Historians

    What about Esteban Austin

    He got a major city named after him and
    was not for the rebellion. True?


    Moi
    :oldman:


    anti-Canada-b.jpg
     
  4. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2012
    Messages:
    31,491
    Likes Received:
    2,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    In my opinion the Creator who gave promises to Jacob / Yacob and
    to his children is free to take land and shift the ownership of that land
    to the descendants of Jacob and Joseph and Ephrayim and Menasseh which Orthodox Jewish scholar Yair Davidiy
    asserts is one of the reasons why America acquired so much territory so fast at the time that that happened.

    Lots of errors were made.... the descendants of Ephrayim and Menasseh were terribly flawed just like their
    great grandfather Jacob / Yacob.....
    but........
    America still owns Texas.....
    and the process was somewhat fair in the sight of the Creator.....
    ... who has set up America in order to assist the Jewish people to accomplish what they are supposed to accomplish in the Holy Land as the Era of Moshiach / The Millennium is being prepared for.

    https://britam.org/messiah.html

    I find it rather moving that an Orthodox Jewish scholar and historian feels that Americans and Canadians are his long lost relatives from the time when the Northern Kingdom of Israel was taken captive by the Assyrian Empire.
     
    Last edited: May 1, 2021
  5. Oh Yeah

    Oh Yeah Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2010
    Messages:
    5,093
    Likes Received:
    2,636
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Everyone knows " if your going to play in Texas you have to have a fiddle in the band"
     
  6. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,638
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I know!
    The UN should take this up.
     
    Last edited: May 11, 2021
  7. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,350
    Likes Received:
    11,517
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Before I can opine on this I want to know what fair is defined as? Is fair some equivalent to modern day contract law? Is fair based on the ethics and morality of today? The early 19th century? Or what?
     
  8. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    16,389
    Likes Received:
    12,962
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The UN can suck it.
     
    Buri and Moi621 like this.
  9. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Messages:
    12,832
    Likes Received:
    5,961
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Is and was Mexico ever really Mexico that it could be said the US took what was not its own? Were it not that the powerful conquered and subjugated, no nation would exist in its present form. No border would be as they are now drawn. And the whole earth would be brimming in great darkness, slavery, tribalism, and human sacrifice. So perhaps, well enough should be left alone, and borders honored for the sake of peace, progress and the sharing of information.
     
    Buri likes this.
  10. 19Crib

    19Crib Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2021
    Messages:
    5,647
    Likes Received:
    5,529
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It all goes back to Texas being one of the critical territory captures that created a sovereign nation.
    The USA nearly ceased to exist until the wise ones decided to create a nation from coast to coast, sandwitched in between what is now Mexico and Canada. If we had failed most of us would distributed among a group of colonies of Spain, France, Russia, and England, and us average people would have been subjects of their kings. For all we know, there may have never been an industrial revolution, let alone the freedom to opine on a site like this.
    We did what it took to create a great nation based on the (relative) sovereignty of the citizen.
    You cannot weigh past events, and ignore this as a possible outcome of the settlement of "The last continent".
    At least that is my two pesos.
     
    Last edited: May 16, 2021
    Injeun likes this.
  11. pol meister

    pol meister Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    5,903
    Likes Received:
    2,273
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They don't have to. Biden is giving our country to them without a shot being fired.
     
    roorooroo and Injeun like this.
  12. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Messages:
    12,832
    Likes Received:
    5,961
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Illegal immigrants are from all over the world, not just Mexico. Now they are mainly from Central and South America. They don't care about owning or possessing Texas. But they should either come legally or not at all. That's where Democrats are dropping the ball.
     
  13. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2009
    Messages:
    37,762
    Likes Received:
    14,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nothing fair about war but it was a war of secession from Mexico that created the Republic of Texas later to become a state in 1849 after having been denied statehood by the Jackson and Van Buren administrations.
     
    Moi621 likes this.
  14. Moriah

    Moriah Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2013
    Messages:
    7,646
    Likes Received:
    2,125
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
     
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2021

Share This Page