Johns Hopkins professor 'ignore the CDC' — 'natural immunity works' and "herd immunity is here"

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the reality is, the op is right, we are almost there, thanks to all the patriotic Americans that have got the vaccine, combined with all that have already caught it, many areas are there, not everywhere, but many
     
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    think he meant the Trump lock downs from 2020
     
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    this is a good video as it tells about how the vaccine targets the spikes.... what the virus uses as keys to get into the cells

    starts about 4:30



    natural immunity targets the virus as a whole, the vaccine targets the spikes, which is why variants are covered better too

    this is why the cdc still recommends the vaccine to those that have caught covid already
     
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    My doctor told me the same. What supplements to take, and to call right away if I have symptoms and they will immediately put me on these tried and true medications proven repeatedly to work. But, big Pharma and their evil clown, Fauci saw Big Big bucks here, and these old tried and true drugs with expired patents, would take their payday.

    CDC Vaccine Reporting Website is currently reporting 4,265 deaths related to vaccine through 5/26/21.
    4,578 - Life Threatening Events, and
    3,284 - Cases of permanent disability from related to the vaccine, so far.

    You know how many total cases of death from COVID from the 600,000 dead so far in America in the 0-17 age group? Less than 300, yet, watch the push to vaccinate these folks with this experimental vaccine which still lacks full approval, in order to prevent them getting an illness for which their rate of death is ZERO until you get to the 4th decimal point.

    *United States Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS), Public Health Service (PHS), Centers for Disease Control (CDC) / Food and Drug Administration (FDA), Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) 1990 - 05/21/2021, CDC WONDER On-line Database. Accessed at http://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html on May 28, 2021 8:40:16 AM
     
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    Ouch... this is a huge event and the thread got buried here?
     
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    The Twilight Zone for worn-out conspiracy theories and dangerous bunkum?
     
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    I've read in a couple of places that natural immunity triggers a better T-Cell response, and it's this T-Cell response that triggers the more durable immunity, supposedly more durable than a vaccine. I heard it first from a Tucker Carlson interview with Peter McCullough, since censored by YouTube, and again in this link, assuming that I've interpreted it correctly.

    https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/what-...n-why-immunity-is-about-more-than-antibodies/
     
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    Yup. Look to find that natural immunity is more robust than vaccine immunity.

    And recognise that evil clown Fauci is a fraud.

    [​IMG]
    "Unhinged, Unworthy, Unqualified".
    "Some Republicans have finally acquired enough spine to call for the firing of Dr. Anthony “That’s Not What I Meant” Fauci"

    https://pjmedia.com/columns/stephen...hinged-untrustworthy-and-unqualified-n1450321
     
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    "Johns Hopkins professor 'ignore the CDC' — 'natural immunity works' and "herd immunity is here""


    bad advice from the professor it seems, what if this officer had taken the vaccine or wore a mask

    police officers were offered the vaccine in January... he refused, said he had an immune system

    "Anti-Mask Cop Dies From COVID-19"

     
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    I think you are over selling the opinion of a single doctor.
     
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    natural immunity targets the whole virus, the vaccine only targets the spikes (the keys into the cell), so the vaccine is more likely to work for the mutations than natural immunity is the way I understand it
     
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    Sure there is herd immunity. That is why my sister's co-worker died this week from COVID :roll:
     
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    Do you live in a cave somewhere? Do you not watch or read any of the mainstream media?

    FYI a number of colleges and universities in the US have announced that all incoming students this fall must be injected.

    Budweiser and Sam Adams both have offered free beer to those who have been injected.

    Employers and airlines and many more corporations are on the bandwagon.

    It appears you have not read the link I offered in our previous exchange. You are starting to come across as a dishonest poster.
     
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    Nobody is forcing anyone to get a vaccine. Leave it to Republicans to create a strawman and argue against it. LOL

    If you don't want a vaccine, you can go to a different University.
    If you don't want a free beer from Sam Adams & Budweiser, don't get a vaccine.
    Work for a corporation that doesn't care if you have a vaccine or not.

    It appears you along with all the other anti-vaxxers don't understand the meaning of "force."
     
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    ... and yet another study comes out today, again confirming that those who recovered have immunity for at least a year and likely much much longer.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03647-4 <-- Journal of Nature - Hugely respected scientific journal.

    Write up on the study: https://nypost.com/2021/05/27/new-studies-claim-covid-19-immunity-may-last-years/

    Cliff Note:

    Most people who recover from COVID-19 could have immunity that lasts at least a year or even longer — and may not need a booster shot after being vaccinated, as pair of new studies suggest.


    The first study, published Monday in the journal Nature, found most people who were infected with the virus about a year earlier had immunological memory of the disease in their bone marrow, suggesting they’re still able to produce antibodies.


    And another report, which was published on the pre-print server BioRxic, found that these cells — called “memory B” — were robust for at least 12 months after infection.


     
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    So don't get a shot. Still not sure what you're fired up about here.
     
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    He's fired up about the disgusting fraud that is the Covid Inquisition.

    Maybe like me he is embarrassed about how crazy the masses have become and how dishonest and immoral the medical industrial complex has become.
     
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    Or, you and the OP simply just want to be fired up for ridiculous reasons.
     
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    No, that's a poor guess Walter. I can't speak for the OP, but I'm one of those oddball loner types. I like the think for myself and observe what's going on in the world around me. Having been around the medical profession for quite a few years of my life, I understand that natural immunity is superior to vaccines. When I had measles sometime in the 50s, my physician father told me that. Funny, I've remembered it all my life.

    You people that have been indoctrinated by mainstream media and Big Pharma know only what they tell you. You are in the majority that way, but majorities are seldom correct in their analysis. When everybody is thinking the same way, nobody is thinking.
     
  22. WalterSobchak

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    Ah, so you're an anti-vaxxer, figures. Carry on believing that your body will always act as if it's in its youthful prime and will never need medical assistance.
     
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