"The Insurrection Isn’t Over"

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  1. archives

    archives Well-Known Member

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    "The Republican Party is more in thrall than ever before to the lies that led to a deadly attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6 meant to stop the peaceful transfer of power."

    "The stolen election lie that inspired the Jan. 6 insurrection now inspires voter suppression legislation that could be used by partisan forces to prevent Democrats from winning in 2022 or 2024. Republicans aren’t just trying to fix elections to benefit them in the future. In states like Arizona, Georgia, Michigan and New Hampshire, they’re still trying to change the 2020 election results."

    "This is not just a top-down phenomenon driven by the ex-president from his redoubt in Mar-a-Lago. The stolen election myth is driving the majority of the party’s grassroots as well."

    "It could lead to further violence as the former president or other figures continue to insist that their supporters cannot trust the nation’s democratic processes and must take dramatic action to overcome them."

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/insur...b04ddf13edbe9d

    Obvious the source is partisan, but it does raise a valid point

    Today, the Republican Party has just about completely abandoned those principles of the Reagan Era and have replaced them with Trumpism. The January 6th investigation vote shows this, but also, the collection of GOP figures as Greene, Gaetz and Boebert, to name a few, decades ago wouldn't have been seen near the party. And that is only on the national level

    Thusly, the GOP has has adopted the narcissistic theme inherent in Trumpism, that if you lose at anything, elections or policy, it wasn't you that cause the loss, but rather something nefarious that the other side did.

    This ideology of Trumpism gives the person a world where they are always right and the other guy is wrong, January 6th isn't viewed as a threat to democracy, but an attempt to correct an error. Given such, why would anyone expect the violence and insurrection to end?
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I find this odd considering democrats call anyone they’re trying to get a vote from victims.

    Women - victims
    Blacks - victims
    Illegals - victims
    Muslims - victims
    Gays - victims
     
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    It's really not that odd. That's how Identitarianism works. In order for there to be victims there has to be someone that made them victims. So the goal is to demonize the minority party in order to make the majority of people victims.
     
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    Until someone is charged, tried and convicted of 'insurrection', then 'insurrection' hasn't even started yet.

    ...the fact that ppl think Jan 6 is what 'insurrection' looks like shows just how far out of touch from reality we've wandered.
     
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    then we have the right that thinks they are the real victims cause these people get equal rights
     
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    Irrelevant to topic thread

    And playing the victim isn’t germane to the Democrats, in fact, no one played, and is still playing, it bigger than Trump, he had the media martyr role down to a Science
     
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    What would you call a violent attack on the center of the Gov’t to overturn the results of a legitimate election?
     
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    They need to keep the 'insurrection' lie going to cover up the real lie....that Faux Biden legitimately won.
     
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    One side calls it 'mail in ballots and drop boxes'.
     
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    I would call it a mostly peaceful right wing protest. You know kind of like the mostly peaceful riots that left wingers have been carrying out in the Pacific Northwest for more than a year now. Burning buildings and breaking windows by leftists seems to be allowed out there.
     
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    A fantasy ginned up by Democrats looking to use it to increase federal power. Hitler used the same technique with the Reichstag fire. It is an old tactic used by authoritarian monsters. It will be used for as long as humans exist and it will continue to be effective. We are not a free country. If you shut your mouth and ignore the corruption, you will be ok. If you dare attempt speaking truth to power, the Democrats are demonstrating the result.
     
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    At the time of the Reichstag fire, Hitler was Chancellor of Germany. Hitler used it as an excuse to ask the German legislature for emergency powers, which he never relinquished. The comparison would be Trump using the Capitol riot to declare Marshal Law and to overturn the 2020 election.

    It didn't work.
     
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    wrong....again....nobody has complained about equal rights. It's the right that pushes for equal rights. It's the left that wants to bestow benefits based on identity.
     
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    A tour.
     
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    I watched that fantasy on TV. Are you a hermit?
     
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    Utah says this post is delusional.
     
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    I think the current term is, mostly peaceful demonstration.
     
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    That’s really odd considering that there’s sensitive right-whingers out there who *actually* consider themselves to be victims.. just because they can’t be openly sexist, racist, homophobic and transphobic no more..
     
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    A riot. 'Insurrection' is a precise legal term that describes a specific crime that no one has been charged with yet.

    ...possibly because what you seem to think happened didn't actually happen.
     
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    really?

    ""Vouchers can be used for Muslim Schools? OOPS!""

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2012/7/6/1106793/--Vouchers-can-be-used-for-Muslim-Schools-OOPS

     
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    Oh, they can. There is still a market for it, though shrinking every minute. They can be all those things and more. They just can't be those things and be successful. Really pisses them off. Makes them feel like they're being controlled. Karma's a bitch is what I always say.
     
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    Insurrection is a common word. That it is also a legal term is irrelevant.

    The Insurrection Act gives the POTUS power to use the military against its own citizens..."during extraordinary circumstances of civil unrest or rebellion that threaten a state or its government, superseding other laws that generally prevent the use of forces like the Army domestically in a law-enforcement capacity."

    The government was threatened. Insurrection.
     
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    as it was done to try and overturn an election, that also makes it an insurrection
     
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    Trump led his mob to attack the capitol in hopes of overturning a valid election. "Odd" doesn't quite cover it.

    The word you're looking for is "treason".

    Technically, 'sedition".
     
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