Unvaccinated students 'numbered' with Sharpie marker at New Hampshire prom

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    First of all, a person who is not vaccinated doesn't seem to care much about being vaccinated and probably doesn't care who s/he's next to.

    Second, why would vaccinated people be so concerned about being around people who aren't, don't they trust the vaccine?

    Third, and this is a big one, forcing someone to reveal their medical status is a HIPPA violation.

    Fourth, numbers on hands reminds me of numbers being tattooed on arms. We saw that happen 80 years ago.

     
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    The unvaccinated are lucky to be allowed to attend anything, but it's probably too soon to be monitoring this, especially for teens...

    This would seem to be more of a fall requirement....

    Your first 3 arguments are arguable... your forth "argument" is ****ing pitiful and you should apologize....
     
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    Well people aren't being forced (in the US at least) they're being asked. Plus a HIPPA violation can only occur if an entity is actually covered by HIPPA regulations. On top of that, organizations which are regulated by HIPPA are permitted to ask. So this issue, granted its highly debated, is a fight in search of an enemy.

    But on topic this sounds like school administrators either wanted to shame kids, or they didn't properly plan ahead. They had to of known this was going to be an issue; unvaccinated kids in the midst of a re-open crusade I mean c'mon. The smarter thing to do would have been to never schedule a prom in the first place, second to that if they wanted to host a prom they should have required vaccination for attendance and made that requirement known well in advance.

    This is just yet another example of why we weren't ready to re-open. A huge chunk of our population that wont (or cant but mostly just wont) get vaccinated, rampant anti-masking, and a complete lack of leadership from the top down. America has sucked and failed at COVID at every turn and every opportunity. We are not a first world superpower, we just think we are, and when our enemies develop a viral weapon -which they will now that we've shown them how incompetent we are- it will be the outright end of us. Cant even have a ****ING SCHOOL DANCE with any sense of order... but oh ya we'll make it through a state sponsored biological attack mhmm uh huh sureeeeeeeeee.
     
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    I am vaccinated and I still wear a mask in places I don't have to because no I don't trust the vaccine to keep me from getting the virus. I trust it only to keep me from dying from it if I do.

    And no, HIPPA is not violated by requiring someone disclose whether or not they have been vaccinated. HIPPA applies to medical providers, insurance companies, and the like. It does not apply to someone organizing a voluntary social event.
     
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    This was totally unnecessary and serves no purpose whatsoever.
     
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    partners have a right to know who still might be a disease risk
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You’re correct, I just checked and schools are not subject to the HIPPA laws. However, by making the kids identify as not being vaccinated they are forcing them to divulge protected info and that might be a violation.
     
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    check this out, only 21 states require AIDS patients to inform their sex partners of their infection.


    In 21 states, laws require people with HIV who are aware of their status to disclose their status to sex partners, and 12 states require disclosure to needle-sharing partners.

    https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/states/exposure.html
     
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    It may be protected by some other law, but HIPPA isn't it. HIPPA is probably the most misunderstood and wrongly cited law on the federal books.
     
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    Wonder about the Hep C? Far more transmissible, especially with needles.
     
  11. Steve N

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    You seem to understand it better than I do, so I’ll take your word for it. The companies I worked for were extremely concerned that we never ask about anyone’s health or illnesses, but those weren’t schools.
     
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    My youngest son went to that high school for 2 years ... the teachers are some of the best in the country for core curriculum ... my son was accepted to Philips Exeter Academy for his junior and senior year ... most of the teachers at Exeter High School just missed the PEA cut but are still hoping ...

    I had the pleasure of living in Exeter for 4 years ... Revolutionary War capitol so true to it's roots ... pristine lake and river system ... a little bit wealthy hippy but was fun hanging out with great writers, musicians, chefs and other weirdniks ...
     
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    Every time I have a doctors appointment or a test at the hospital or a medical facility I am told I must have my Covid 19 inoculation record with me for them to check before I am admitted for my appointment. I feel they are displaying common sense in not trusting mine or anyone else's word.
     
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    Obviously if they were not able to go into the rest room and wash the marker off their hand they had received an inferior education at that particular high school.
     
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    I had to get the vaccine and when they gave me my card they told me to copy it and not carry the original in case I lost it. Some guys I used to work with caught the virus, recovered and don’t want the vaccine. So I photoshopped my name and birthday off of my card and emailed it to my friends. I’m surprised some high school kids didn’t do that.
     
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    Obviously you have a criminal mind.
     
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    If you are able to ask me if I’ve been vaccinated I should be able to ask you if you’ve ever had an STD.
     
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    You know schools already require vaccines right?
     
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    Do you know how Covid is spread? Do you know how STDs are?
     
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    Well that's a problem. A big problem.
    Sure they do but that doesn't mean I want to be around someone infected....or may be.
    Well that's wrong........but you got that straightened out. The "big one" ended up being not so big.
    I reminds me of going into a club and being marked as old enough to drink.
     
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    exactly, that said, before one has sex they should be able to ask and get a valid answer, lying should be considered assault

    be like selling something with food poisoning and not disclosing it
     
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    Many companies routinely go around HIPAA privacy concerns by hiring "screening companies" who check out applicants for negative problems like drug use, getting married and risking childbearing costs or have family members with expensive health-related issues or handicaps to avoid promotions, selecting layoff, etc.

    The screening companies do the dirty work of screening out whatever the owners/managers desire using the usual wink and the screening company applies their own private and proprietary, and the company gets a "acceptable" or "undesirable" rating from the screening company.

    I swear, these fantasies from business that everything is honest and above-board in their selecting the "best and brightest and most desirable" is one of the most pathetic jokes from the USA.

    For instance, almost every 1st world. company doesn't down-check actual or potential employees because with universal insurance, companies have little motivation to screen out family members or emplyees because it doesn't cost the employer money extra to have any extra medical costs to choose a employee who has a child or family member or self needs expensive ongoing medical care.
     
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    Yeah, cause it's just like the holocaust, eh?
     
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    This is why we need universal healthcare coverage.
     
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    So people like you and your friends might create the opportunity for a Covid variant that is worse and one that evades the vaccine. In short, you could start a new and even worse pandemic all over again. That makes you a threat to the health and welfare of everyone else in the world.

    And if that happens, you will be the first to whine about it.
     
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