Ilhan Omar ties US and Israel with Hamas and…

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I never said anything about an Oath - other than state that most in congress violate their Oath "failure to uphold the constitution"
    On this basis your argument fails.

    I am but, citizenship matters not. You completely missed the point of my post w/r to "Sharia" -and the founding principle.

    This not about how one lives their life "sharia observation" - Nor is this about one's actions violating "legitimate" law - Honor Killing.

    If someone does not like alcohol - don't drink. The fact that your religious sect does not like alcohol - is not justification for a law banning alcohol- forcing your personal religious belief on others through physical violence.

    Not liking alcohol does not violate the founding principle .. forcing others to not drink through physical violence on the basis of religious belief does.

    So belief in Sharia for yourself is not a problem - wanting to force these beliefs on everyone else is the problem.
     
  2. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes it is Egypt that controls entry and exit into Gaza. Egypt need no stinking wall, Egyptians shoot Gazans on sight, and Gazans know that.
     
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    Pelosi: We didn’t rebuke Omar — we thanked her!

    House GOP Will Press Motion To Remove Ilhan Omar From Committee As Dems Try To Head Off Civil War Over ‘Crimes Against Humanity’ Comments.
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    Married her brother while married to another and no fan of the Jewish People.​

    "She comparex the United States and Israel to terrorist regimes, Hamas and the Taliban."

    Several Republicans joined Democrats to strip Greene of her committee assignments and they expect the same courtesy in return.
    It looks like a bit of friction is developing in the Democrat coalition between the Islamists and the Jewish People.
     
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  4. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, she thanked for clarifying.

    un-****ing-real!
     
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    Good grief fighting for Americans to get fair trade from Canada, which worked btw, to the Palestine and Israel conflict is beyond a strawman?
     
  6. Moonglow

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    Why are you afraid to post her statement?
     
  7. Moonglow

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    Fair trade by increasing prices what could be better> I know a punch on the nose.
     
  8. notme

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    Israel controls the Gaza-Egypt border at the side of Gaza. Israel has a buffer zone there, which they patrol and frequently enlarge by destroying plenty of houses in Rafah... to even destroying the zoo there, and killed the animals by driving their tanks over their cages with them animals in it. That's how disgusting the Jewish army is.

    Wikipedia even states: On 22 and 23 May, a new incursion into the Brazil district took place. The IDF ordered all males in Abu Halaweh aged 16 years and above to gather and carried out house-to-house searches and demolitions. The IDF deliberately demolished two houses with the family who refused to leave inside. A soldier entered a house with a Palestinian as human shield.[11] In Tel al-Sultan, the IDF destroyed with bulldozers and tanks two large agricultural areas full of greenhouses.
     
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    So. you did not say:
    This is silliness - .. you don't even say how she evaded .. just say "it is obvious" .. how so.. and what was her mental state at the time of the oath... such that you know she evaded .. and who hasn't violated some part of the oath .. in congress .. natural citizen or otherwise .. and what does any of this have to do with Islam ? or rather and specifically - an "Islamist" as opposed to "Islam"

    You did not specify the congressional oath until afterwards. You then separated that statement from the statement about the Congress by "..." . That indicates it as a separate statement. Surely you would not claim that a sitting Congresswoman can take an oath of office but it does not bind her for the entire time she is in Congress? So her mental state at the time she took the Oath of Office is completely irrelevant. If her mental state changed while in office, then she needs to resign from Congress.

    Further, I see nothing in your statement on oaths that had anything to do with "most in congress violate their Oath "failure to uphold the constitution"". Maybe you should try to be clearer on what you are saying, or don't try to change it after the fact. If you had said that most in congress violates their oath to support and defend the US Constitution, I would have definitely challenged that statement. Why not offer some examples to support that statement.

    The post that you responded to (number 58 on this topic) had absolutely nothing to do with her oath of office. The oath that I was referring to is clearly stated as her Citizenship Oath. What I said about her not being eligible for congress had to do with her violating her Citizenship Oath, and therefore ineligible for service in Congress. So why would you be redirect the post to her Congressional Oath?

    Lets go back to the text of the Citizenship Oath:

    “I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen;

    that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic;

    that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;

    that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by law;

    that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law;

    that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law;

    and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.”

    (You will see that I highlighted the first section of this oath because it it the part that is relevant to this conversation.)

    You will see that a Naturalized Citizen has to absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any...sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen. All religions have some forms of dictates that they require their members to follow but only Sharia Law places itself above Secular Laws. An example along the lines of Honor Killings, can be found in Exodus 22:18. This is from the Old Testament of the Bible which is supposedly accepted by Christians Jews and Muslims. Yet, Muslims have not included the requirement in Sharia Law. Exodus 22:18 - Thou shall not suffer a witch to live. As I have said, Muslims have ignored that passage, and Christians and Jews do not hold that passage over Secular Law. In other words, they do not require member of their faith to kill witches. Which would be a clear violation of the Secular Law against Murder.. Since Islam places Sharia Law above Secular Laws, it by definition is a Sovereignty. Therefore inherence to the law over Secular Laws is a violation of the Citizenship Oath to renounce all sovereignties. So to marry more then one husband might be allowable under Sharia Law, but not under US Secular Laws. To commit this act under the quise of Sharia Law is a clear violation of the Citizenship Oath.

    If a Naturalized Citizen violates their Citizenship Oath, then they are ineligible to hold office in the United States.

    Now when you respond to this post. please stick to what I actually have said, and not try twisting my words to mean something else.
     
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    Nope. Wikipedia is not a reliable source.
     
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    Figured you would look it up in the article. I know you’re not afraid to agree with her.
     
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    Then you don't know Jack.
     
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    So do you agree with her or not? Are we comparable with Hamas and the Taliban?
     
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    Nope. Bullshit. Never happened. She is NOT anti-semitic. Right wing spin is the problem.
     
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    That is your opinion when proven wrong. Does it look like I care about your opinion? lol
     
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    Politico reported,
    "Omar is an anti-Semitic carbuncle on Congress."

    "That the black caucus supports her is no surprise. A caucus based on the color of one's skin is inherently racist, and racists are always anti-Semitic."

    https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2021/06/highlights-of-news_01250038215.html#more
     
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    The problem with Pompeo's BDS Ban protecting Israel is, it's unconstitutional.
     
  18. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know Jack. Jack is a friend of mine. You, Moonglow, is not Jack.
     

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