Portland PD riot control squad votes to resign after cop charged

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  1. ImNotOliver

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    Sure, sure, liberals are authoritarians. giggle giggle Liberals, by definition, are anti-authoritarian. In case you haven’t noticed, the Democratic Party has all manner of different people. Gay, straight, White, Black, Brown, all manner of religious beliefs and lifestyles. It is the Republican Party that represents the monoculture that condemned Liz Cheney for being honest. It is the Republican Party that denies science, that denies the global warming that is everywhere evident. Your proclamations to the contrary don’t hold any water.


    It is conservatives who seem to be always advocating for a police state. It is liberalism which seeks to eschew such a society. Our conversation in this thread exemplifies that trend.
     
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    False, liberals are genuinely authoritarian. It is they who refuse to allow free and open discussions and would prefer to shut down all opposition on any platform designed for speech and discussion. It is they who openly and actively seek to cancel and have fired anyone who dares be a voice against them. It is they who above all desire power by any means necessary. By definition, they are objectively authoritarians. The present day anti fascist are genuinely fascists and present day liberals are authoritarians.

    Conservatives are no longer the monoculture party, they used to be but that hasn’t been true for awhile and is rapidly changing as more blacks, more Hispanics and more lgbtq join us. It is a delusion to believe dems have that monopoly anymore.

    It is liberals who want a police state, and conservatives who simply want peace and order. There is a significant difference. Everything you hate conservatives for is genuinely in your own party far more lol. You are simply being emotional, not logical.
     
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    Were the police required to get an officer her size in order to force her to comply with their orders?
     
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    He chased her down. I didn't hear any orders.
     
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    . I am rubber and you are glue. Everything you say bounces off me and sticks to you.

    I happen to live in polite society. If your attitudes, opinions, and manner of speech are too crude for that society, it is your short comings. Not mine. You are always free to associate with scoundrels - who tend to not care about the condition of your manners.
     
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    I think the latest total is over 6000, the number of excessive use of force complaints against Portland’s rapid response team. There have been repeated cases of them purposely targeting journalists. News accounts have repeatedly shown that it is the police who often instigate the violence. The mayor, city council, the DA and a judge has asked them to back off on the violence. They have refused. They have quit the team because they now fear prosecution for what I am sure they know to be their own bad behavior.
     
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    Race is irrelevant, but it is generally young white college students whose dads didn't hug them enough growing up who are ****ing everything up.

    There is no more white group than a group of social justice activists.
     
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    There is this thing about cops. Especially the corrupt ones. They tend to not be as tough as they like to pretend. Like all predators, they tend to target smaller prey. For larger prey they attack in packs. It is a rather clear pattern in Portland, the police attacks on mostly defenseless individuals. One officer, weighing in at over 250 pounds, slammed a small 140 pound man to the ground and threw his body on top of the man, breaking several of his ribs and causing his death. Not long after, he’s hit a 12 year old girl with a bean bag gunThe city had to pay out a lot of money on that one. The federal department of justice even came in with a big investigation. By voter referendum, marihuana is legal and other recreational drugs have been decriminalized. Thus, half of the justifications for harassing citizens has gone away. Also by voter referendum, Portland now has a civilian police oversight board. The days of bad officers escaping accountability is coming to an end.
     
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    Let us see. It is always the conservatives who have the violent solutions, who excuse and cheer on police brutality, who are are always trying to threaten with their guns, threaten this threaten that. They even supported a very horrible president who regularly claimed that dissenters should be violently taken care of. It was conservatives who violently attacked our Capital in an effort to break our system of government and install the most horrid of creatures at our head. The party that never met a war it didn’t like. How many times have I heard conservatives go off on how they would violently suppress the anti fascists if they came to their neck of the woods? This past year I have been repeatedly entertained by groups of conservatives, guns in hand, out hunting for anti fascists. Hunts that turned out to be essentially snipe hunts.


    Why do you think it is that conservative parents tend to strike their defenseless children and liberals much less likely to do so? I’m sure it is a result of the crude and often violent nature of conservative culture as compared to the more refined culture of liberals.


    I am sure that you have put out of your mind, the case where a man, his friend, and his son chased down and killed a Black man, because, that is what comes out of the culture of guns and violence.

    Sure, sure, it is liberals who are the violent ones. Tell me another one as you cling to the warmth of your firearms. Guess you missed, in the fog of conservative rhetoric, that a good portion of the liberal wing of the Democratic Party grew out of the peace and love of the sixties. Back in lil’ Bush’s time conservatives pretended to be compassionate. A trait they have obviously abandoned. Yet a trait that tends to come quite naturally to the liberal minded.
     
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    I asked a simple question, the statement was made he that he was having to force a woman "half his size" to comply with the lawful orders to clear the area during a RIOT. How dare he lawfully enforce the law because she was "half his size". So are the police required to make sure the officer is the same size as the perpetrator now? And YES if you refuse our police will use force to clear you off our streets so that we peaceful law-abiding citizens can conduct our daily lives without your illegal behavior preventing it. It's what we pay them to do.
     
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    I don't blame them. If the politicians want woke, let them have it....let them heel their own darlings.
     
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    Were the police required to get an officer her size in order to force her to comply with their orders?
     
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    Have you seen the raw footage? As he pushes her to the ground she can be heard screaming, “F*** you.. you fat pig!” The city obviously thought the officer was in the wrong, as it covered the woman’s medical and legal expenses and compensated her with $50,000 for her trauma. The DA thought that the officer acted inappropriately, and a grand jury agreed. I don’t know where you come from, but around here, such behavior is unacceptable. There is no justification for officers committing such brutality upon citizens. It seems as this is a rather defining ideological separation in the United States. Most conservatives seem to be okay with, even encourage brutal police tactics. Liberals tend to be appalled at such acts of overt authoritarianism.
     
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    AGAIN do thy have to match size for size? When will liberals be appalled at the acts of such rioters and their behaviors towards the police?
     
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    Liberals tend to not be all that enthusiastic for a police state, for brutal authoritarianism as conservatives tend to be, as you appear to be. This case was from a woman standing on the side who the officer had to go out of his way to attack.
     
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    I don't think anyone is enthusiastic for a police state. Are you enthusiastic for a civil and law abiding society? This was a case of the crowd, the riot ordered to disperse. Again the complaint was that he was twice her size, are police required to match size for size with criminals?
     
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    The complaint was that he attacked her without justification. That he chose a significantly smaller person to attack is not surprising, as that is what predators do.
     
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    Do these "manners" of yours include talking down to others and believing yourself to be so very "enlightened"?
     
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    I like your signature. Kind of like how many conservatives like to blame modern Democrats for the behavior of the party more than a hundred years ago. All the while, excusing, or ignoring the words and actions that are central to the modern Republican Party.
     
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    What orders? He chased her down and assaulted her.
     
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    You are simply projecting your own shortcomings onto me. That is not my fault, it is yours. Your refusal to participate reasonably is indicative that your positions are weak and not based in fact. Everything you hate the right for, the left is far more guilty of.
     
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    giggle giggle
     
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    That’s about what I would expect to hear from the left when confronted with reality
     
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    The reality that you have repeatedly tried to throw insults at me. That, that is all you do. Go back and look at this thread. All you have done is make baseless claims in an unending effort to insult me and what you think is my ideology. Sure, pretend it is reality, but I am not about to take anything you say seriously. I’m sure if you had a credible point to make, you would have made it by now.
     
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    The reality is I have given you nothing you haven’t given me, and I have pointed out hypocrisy and the unfortunate reality that what you think you hate republicans for, dems are more guilty of. You don’t have to like it, but it remains true nonetheless.
     

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