Trump Organization Is Charged in 15-Year Tax Scheme

I bet Hunter is on THIS board..... perhaps several times.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/bizarre-wing-trump-conspiracy-whiteboard-090423922.html

Hope that helps you understand them a little bit..

 

All of that is correct, but none states that the lies told about Trump to Pence are exactly the same lies that Flynn admitted to the feds.

 

That is standard, normal, and legal corporate practice.

 

Cohen pled guilty to a non-crime involving the NDA agreements.

 

And?

 

You are completely sweeping under the rug the fact that Cohen received one sentence for all of his crimes without differentiating among the crimes. You do not know what the sentence for the campaign contribution "crimes" was because it was not stated, at the request of the SDNY, because it was effectively zero.

 

Yeah...they do. It's in the transcript of the call and the charges regarding the call, with Flynn's guilty plea and the Pardon, by reference to the latter document...Case 1:17-cr-00232-EGS.

 

I believe it was campaign money that went through the Essential Consultants dummy corporation, making it a campaign funding violation.

 

Thanks... you are like an advent calendar for my daily laugh....

 

Ugh... no, this money was never part of the official campaign finance bucket... don't feed the trolls by saying that...

It was Cohen's HELOC money that got laundered through Essential Consultants to pay Stormy. That way, the money was insulated from any official campaign expenditure list, as designed.

Here is a refresher for everybody

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...g-why-hush-money-illegal-donation/2287647002/

 

But it was Trump's own money which doesn't have the campaign restrictions that other contributions have. Just out of curiosity, are you bothered that Hillary explicitly (though indirectly) spent campaign money to pay for a false dossier to support her campaign written by foreign aliens -- a clear and prima facie violation of the campaign finance laws?

 

OK...thanks. I thought I remembered Trump's name on one of the agreements with Daniels, but unsigned and initialed by Cohen? I may be thinking of that.

 

??? He was sentenced for an inclusive combined number of crimes that included his non-crime. Had his sentencing been individualized he would have received no sentence for the "non-crime." His integrated combined sentence was at the explicit request of the SDNY in order to bury the effective no sentence for his "non-crime" to allow them the option of still pursuing it; however they dropped that investigation days after Cohen's sentencing.

 

I agree with this. I just don't know why you quoted me . . .

 

I don't think she or her campaign paid directly, but indirectly - as you noted - via an American firm Fusion GPS. And, I don't think her campaign ever used the dossier material. The dossier information was also given to the FBI, apparently by Steele and McCain. There were some 13 different reports in the dossier, one of which cobberated information held by U.S. intelligence agencies, which was used for the FISA surveillance warrant on Carter Page. Some of the dossier information, which Steele never claimed had been verified, was probably false. Some was true. I don't think Trump was ever investigated regarding material in the dossier...and Comey told him so in a Trump Tower briefing following a broader briefing by U.S. intelligence agencies.

IF Clinton's action was illegal, which I don't think it was, I would expect prosecution, certainly by the Trump DoJ. They didn't prosecute. As a voter, I would expect the RNC and DNC to vet presidential candidates. Certainly, the Clinton e-mail investigation and the Clinton Foundation were the subject of investigations. Not aware of any RNC or DNC investigations into either candidate other than opposition research. I voted for Clinton as the "lesser evil," and hold the RNC responsible for the Trump candidacy, by allowing him to simply bluff his way into the nomination.

I believe that overall, the Steele Dossier was used as a "red herring" by Republicans, because it was something they could trace to the Clinton campaign. The Page investigation never went anywhere. The Mueller investigation was instigated by Rod Rosenstein for the Trump firing of Comey and the Trump interview with Lester Holt shortly thereafter, and the Trump remarks to the Russian Foreign Minister and Ambassador, in the Oval Office. Mueller failed to find sufficient evidence to connect the Trump campaign with the Russian government and reached no judgment on potential Trump obstruction of justice charges. Mueller did, however, indict numerous Russians for interference in the election, as well as members of the Trump campaign on various charges ranging from tax evasion to lying to the FBI, most of whom were pardoned by Trump.

Overall, I believe our electoral system needs overhauling and reform, with possible caps on both campaign time and funds spent, as well as abolishing gerrymandering.

 

Who said 'effectively zero'?

You?

Or Vance?

Who?

Elaborate.

If was you, than you are entitled to your opinion.

Since they were grouped together, then we could say
they were proportionately distributed from a lot to a little, we don't
know the precise proportional allotments.

That 'opinion' is just as valid as yours.

Maybe six months for the 'lying to congress' maybe six months for the 'campaign finance crimes ( there were two ) , and that equals ONE YEAR for Trump related crimes, and that does mean Trump was involved.

You do realize 'invidual-1' is all over the charging document?

Give it up, you are wrong.

 

Hunter Biden is a talented and smart business analyst. That's why so many companies want him on their board.

 

Why would you think the SDNY petitioned the court to pronounce a single combined sentence for all integrated guilts? Why would they care? And then announce to the court they were dropping any further investigation into the campaign contributions and NDA agreements a few days after the sentencing? It ain't rocket science.

 

Otherwise known as money laundering. Hillary may be crooked and devious, but she's not stupid.

Surely you jest. The dossier action was aided and abetted by the DOJ which at the time was under Obama. Trump retained anti-Trump people in the DOJ, including the Asst. AG Rosenstein who was a key leader and participant in the scurrilous DOJ to keep Trump from winning by any means they thought they could get away with, and then to get rid of him after he won. Under Trump, Rosenstein was the AG in charge for any campaign or election cases as Sessions had recused himself, so he was not about to pursue such a case. After all Rosenstein was a top leader in the Obama DOJ that had decreed Hillary innocent of any and all wrong doing. In any event a clean DOJ probably would not have pursued the case anyway in 2017 as it was a giant bag of messy time consuming worms and water under the bridge -- you know similar to the courts not wanting to hear Trump's 2020 election cases.

 

Admittedly I did not fully understand you "And?" post, so I tried to fill in my blanks.

 

It's called "paying your bills." The campaign's attorneys hired Fusion GPS to do opponent research. The campaign paid the attorneys, who paid Fusion GPS, who had hired and paid Steele. Rosenstein was appointed by Trump. He was a career civil servant. He worked on Ken Starr's staff during the Whitewater investigation and was subsequently nominated U.S. Attorney for Maryland by G.W. Bush. Bush further nominated him for the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals, but his nomination was blocked by Democratic Senators. Trump nominated him to the position of Deputy AG. During the Obama administration, Rosenstein served as U.S. Attorney to Maryland, making it doubtful that he had anything to do with the Clinton investigations. Your commentary about him is ludicrous.

 

You don't know.

NDA agreements? so what? The charge was two counts of campaign finance violations, both felonies, that is all that matters.

You're opinion doesn't negate the fact that Trump is all over the document, and there are three charges for which is listed as individual-1, of which two describe schemes directed by and to the benefit of, Donald Trump, of which one is lying to Congress to protect Donald Trump.

What isn't rocket science is you your assertion that Trump has nothing to do with the Indictment, conviction, and sentence, is factually incorrect.

 

A city district attorney indicting somebody for failing to pay federal income taxes when the IRS hasn't gone after them is absurd. This will be thrown out. Democrats and Rhinos have gone completely insane. Better known as TDS...

 

It's not about not paying taxes.

Trump org/Weisselberg kept " two sets of books "

What does that mean?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_sets_of_books

The concept of "two sets of books" refers to the practice of attempting to hide or disguise certain financial transactions from outsiders by having a set of fraudulent accounting records (or "books") for official use and another, the real set, for personal records.

It goes to criminal intent.

If you didn't pay your taxes, that's not criminal intent, per se, you didn't pay them, you had issues, your mother was in the hospital, you didn't have the money, any number of reasons.

But when you keep two sets of books, one to cheat the IRS, one for internal use, especially over decades, that goes to widespread pattern of deceit, ie. fraud, you have crossed that particular threshold called 'being a criminal'.

It is one thing to avoid paying taxes, but another thing altogether to evade paying taxes.

 

Who is running the second set of books if this actually exists, which we know it doesn't. As Alan Dershowitz says, it's a ridiculous attempt to keep Trump from running in 2024 and to stop his influence in the Republican Party. It's a corrupt way by a Democrat District Attorney trying to bring up Federal Charges the IRS won't even do. This is going nowhere. But, it will take about 3 years to get to the point of being thrown out.