Russia Warns Britain: "Do Not Tempt Fate"

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Jeannette, Jun 26, 2021.

  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    63,898
    Likes Received:
    13,523
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nothing in Henry's blurb that you posted says aything about cultural diversity being responsible - and this is just one of the numerous issues - the main one which was the same reason for the fall of near every Empire.. The cost of projecting power increases as technology spreads.

    Take the Brits for example - Technological innovation leads to military superiority and economic hegemony. They had the gatling gun - with one gunship they could pretty mucy take over an entire African Nation - fighting back with sticks and stones.

    Technology spreads - eventually the African nation gets the Gun - now one ship is not enouth - you have to send an entire armada and you will take numerous casualties .. the cost of projecting power has increased - and it does so until the Return on investment becomes negative - such that continuing to try to project power bankrupts the Empire.

    This happened Rome - British Empire - along with Spanish - and Duth empires all fell in large part for this reason and related effects .. such as Gov't debt.

    Fast fact - the last 3 Empires .. Spanish- Dutch-British - all went into serious decline roughly 20-25 years after going off Gold.

    We are in exactly the same place - running around the world trying to police it now costing 1.3 Trillion/year - more than 1/3rd of our income. - dwarfed only by the 1.8 Trillion we spend on healthcare "federally" the private sector contributes another 1.7 Trillion - total of 3.5 Trillion for 2018 - which is due to "Globalism"
     
  2. Tejas

    Tejas Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2021
    Messages:
    3,436
    Likes Received:
    1,242
    Trophy Points:
    113

    A once powerful first world White Christian nation is quickly morphing into a weak degenerate antichrist nonwhite third world. And that slow motion destructive implosion has been intentionally promoted by enemies who understand the deadly consequences of multi-racial, multi-religious, multi-culturalism.

    .
     
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2021
  3. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,625
    Likes Received:
    27,148
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Utopia. It's unattainable and, in practice, would not be the paradise you imagine anyway. Your pure "white" and pure "Christian" nation would be no more peaceful or prosperous than this one. It would end up like the Third Reich if attempted in the real world, since it would have to be built on genocide anyway.
     
  4. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    63,898
    Likes Received:
    13,523
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Kind of - but your root cause assessment is off - true we were a "White Christian" nation - but the vast majority of citizens in the US are still "Christian" -just with an ever increasing percentage of "non white" So there is some conflation here between religion and race .. when they are separate issues.

    1) Religious belief 2) Non White percentage increasing.

    Throw in 3) Multi Culturalism - and this is separate issue yet.

    Going to sum the effect of all 3 up in a nutshell . The main religious issue is "Islamist Ideology" - These folks do not share our culture - nor do they have respect for the founding principle .. = respect for essential liberty

    Note that this problem is not restricted to Islamists - in fact it is a plague - but Islamists wear it on their forehead - "I hate the founding principle of the USA"

    In the larger sense though - lack of respect for essential liberty is a big part of the decline .. but - this is a symptom of much larger - or rather "macro issues" such as increasing wealth inequality and losing our status as the World Economic Empire .. which is a function of "Globalism" if one is referring to oursourcing of our manufacturing base .. and multi national corps filtering cash untaxed out of our economy .. Those in power padding their pockets on the Military Industrial Complex and Healthcare Gravy Trains -
     
  5. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Navalny as well as Nemtsov, who was the other non performing politician who was assassinated, were on Western payrolls and their handlers had no reason to keep paying them, so they became a greater asset dead than alive for its propaganda value. This way they could say that Putin was killing off his rivals.
    Washington did try to kill Maduro by using the Columbian mafia. As for Putin, there were many attempts. The airliner shootdown in Ukraine was just another one. Putin's plane had left the Warsaw airport two hours before, and it was the same color and size. The normal route it would have taken was the route the Malaysian airliner took, since it would have been heading for the base at Rostov.

    I read in the Vineyard of the Saker a week before the shoot down that Kiev sent 4 Buks to the area and Saker couldn't understand why. Yet our government and medias told us later that the Buk had to have come from Russia since Kiev didn't have any in the area.

    When the investigative reporter Robert Parry of Consortium news started checking up to find out the name of the company that was spreading big bucks around Washington to keep the blame on Russia, it turned out to be Burisma Holdings. That's the company Biden's son worked for. Also Parry's agent in Washington told him they couldn't understand why Obama was blaming Russia and the separatists, when the men mounting the Buks in the satellite image were wearing Ukrainian uniforms.

    Later when Parry asked the agent why they are not telling the American people the truth now that they know for sure it was not the separatists, the agents response was that Russia has everything going for it in Ukraine but all Washington has is its propaganda. In other words all we have are our lies.

    But look Poohbear, if it makes you feel better to believe what you're told, then who am I to tell you differently.



    [​IMG]
    We never question what we're told
    and run along so proud and bold
    without a turn so we can't see
    the lies of what they're telling me.

    For should we dare to doubt their word
    we'd lose the comfort of our herd
    - Jeannette


     
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2021
  6. Tejas

    Tejas Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2021
    Messages:
    3,436
    Likes Received:
    1,242
    Trophy Points:
    113

    As if you don't already know what I think of Hitler's Third Reich...
    and what I've posted over and over on Pravda about Bible prophecy!!

    .
     
  7. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,625
    Likes Received:
    27,148
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You know what I think of your interpretation of the Bible, and deep down you know I'm right and you're wrong.
     
  8. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,625
    Likes Received:
    27,148
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    You just make this **** up as you go, don't you? Whatever will support your biases and current beliefs, that's what you go with, no matter how unfounded and silly it may be.
     
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2021
  9. Tejas

    Tejas Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2021
    Messages:
    3,436
    Likes Received:
    1,242
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Wrong premise based on a FALSE assumption that what passes for main stream "Christianity" today is the same as it was in the past. It is NOT the same! Much of what passes for "Christianity" today has kept pace with the degeneration of race and culture and has also morphed into a cultural marxist abomination [and also promoted intentionally by antichrist enemies.]

    As an example... previously here on this topic I have pointed out how Putin's Stalinist "church" is NOT the same as traditional Russian Orthodoxy.

    .
     
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2021
  10. Tejas

    Tejas Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2021
    Messages:
    3,436
    Likes Received:
    1,242
    Trophy Points:
    113

    If you were paying attention... you'd also know my Biblical witness was meant for someone special.

    What you think of my Biblical witness is of no interest to me.

    .
     
  11. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    63,898
    Likes Received:
    13,523
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Thought we were talking about the decine of Empire .. US Empire - and since you addressed none of my points in relation to cultural religious issues . as related to decline .. I don't have much to say.
     
  12. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,625
    Likes Received:
    27,148
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It should be. I'm someone special.
     
  13. Tejas

    Tejas Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2021
    Messages:
    3,436
    Likes Received:
    1,242
    Trophy Points:
    113

    We were discussing the decline and fall of the US empire. But that is part [the last part] of a much larger decline and fall of all White European Christendom worldwide... to its worst and last enemy antichrist marxism [and its perverted twin cultural marxism]... which began in Russia.

    .
     
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2021
  14. Tejas

    Tejas Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2021
    Messages:
    3,436
    Likes Received:
    1,242
    Trophy Points:
    113

    If you are trying to hint that YOU are MY someone special... then God sent me on a fool's errand so it's no wonder my mission has been an exercise in futility.

    .
     
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2021
  15. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,625
    Likes Received:
    27,148
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The LORD works in mysterious ways.
     
  16. Tejas

    Tejas Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2021
    Messages:
    3,436
    Likes Received:
    1,242
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2021
  17. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,625
    Likes Received:
    27,148
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  18. Tejas

    Tejas Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2021
    Messages:
    3,436
    Likes Received:
    1,242
    Trophy Points:
    113
  19. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,625
    Likes Received:
    27,148
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  20. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Now back to the subject matter.

    There has now been a change in Russia's engagement orders concerning foreign ships which will now include a takeover and a transfer to the nearest Russian port.



    "If the British repeated such a provocative act, the ship would be seized and taken to port. Their documents will be checked and if there is no resistance on their part, then they will be released within 48 hours
     
  21. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,625
    Likes Received:
    27,148
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Source?
     
  22. FrankCapua

    FrankCapua Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2004
    Messages:
    3,906
    Likes Received:
    441
    Trophy Points:
    83
     
  23. Tejas

    Tejas Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2021
    Messages:
    3,436
    Likes Received:
    1,242
    Trophy Points:
    113

    I'll play your game.

    Where special did you go and what special did you do August 1993 ??

    .
     
  24. FrankCapua

    FrankCapua Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2004
    Messages:
    3,906
    Likes Received:
    441
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Russia does not have an economy that could support a conventional war. Russia's GDP is about the size of California's.
    Russia's stus is that of one who has the nuclear ability to destroy any country.
     
  25. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Now back to the subject matter.

    Russia has changed it's engagement orders concerning foreign ships in its waters. It will now include a takeover of the ship, and a transfer to the nearest Russian port.


    "If the British repeat such a provocative act, the ship would be seized and taken to port. Their documents will be checked and if there is no resistance on their part, then they will be released within 48 hours."
    In the meantime in a show of strength in response to the Nato games in the Black Sea, Russia has sent 3 nuclear powered subs to the Baltic Sea. The Baltic Sea is bordered by: Sweden, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania and Poland.

    The following is from an American analyst:


    "this is the first time Russia has sent three nuclear-powered submarines together in the Baltic. They are the only nuclear-powered submarines in the Baltic. NATO and the countries of the region must pay particular attention to this move."
    In the meantime, Nato has been circumventing the Montreaux Treaty and its laws as to how long a foreign ship can stay in the Black Sea by rotating the ships. When one leaves another enters the next day.

    "NATO has found a way to "overtake" the Montreux Treaty while maintaining significant NATO power in the Black Sea. How did they do that? By constantly alternating NATO Flotillas replacing the warships that must leave the Black Sea.

    In this way it has managed to maintain a permanent presence and ships of non-Black Sea countries (USA, Britain, etc.) remain in the region for quite a long time."
    It doesn't look like the situation will be abating soon, even when the games end.
     

Share This Page