“The Message of Trump’s Embrace of Ashli Babbitt Martyrdom”

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  1. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    This is why Babbitt was shot. The fact that Trump and his supporters are trying their best to pretend that the idiot traitors who stormed the Capitol with obvious intent to harm and perhaps kill is a disgrace to anyone with eyesight and the ability to think rationally.

    Those dipshits are lucky nobody else was killed due to their violent attempt to destroy Democracy.

     
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    I’ve seen the tape. I’ve also done an entire career in LE. I have been in bad situations where we have been outnumbered. I have dealt with my own fear many times and learned how to control it. I have lost friends to criminal gunfire. I have made deadly force decisions.

    I think I know what I’m talking about here based upon decades of experience.

    And this is a shooting I would not have done. Not unless and until there were no alternatives left and someone’s life was in immediate danger. Politics has nothing to do with it.
     
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    Not their ruling

    Manner of Death of 4 People Who Died During Jan. 6 Riot – Ashli Babbitt Ruled a Homicide Death
    The DC Chief Medical Examiner on Wednesday announced the cause and manner of death of the four people who died during January 6 riot at US Capitol.

    Two men died of natural causes and one woman’s death was ruled an accident.

    Ashli Babbitt’s death was ruled a homicide.
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...an-6-riot-ashli-babbitt-ruled-homicide-death/

    Homicide investigations are public records where is it? What have I reframed and be specific and back it up.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    Why didn't the officers on her side of the door shoot her? I suggest you review the tape but I doubt an anti-Trumper is willing to accept reality.
     
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  5. Bluesguy

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    Bottom line is Capital Hill Police and members of the SWAT team were standing there on her side of the door watching her, why didn't they kill her?
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    They broke through them and were refusing their orders and commands and occupying and the succeeding in stopping that Congression proceedure. They even had one Senator trapped in an elevator, others fleeing through the escape routes. Then the protestors went to the SCOTUS and tried to break in there being led by a Senator. Talk about inciting, has he been arrested?
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    They were coming up the staircase. They were RIGHT THERE they heard and saw everything. Go watch the video. They were in the position to judge the threat and none of them fire a shot.
     
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    I've said it before but I honestly believe that Trump goes on various websites and reads (or has someone do it for him) and he just blurts things out. One time he was sitting in that conference room and blurted out that he was taking Hydroxychloroquine. He has absolutely no filter and doesn't even pretend like he's trying to think. It just comes spewing out.

    And, the Babbitt thing is exactly like you called it. She died on January 6th, 2021. He hasn't been concerned for her for six months and few days? What about the cop that died after returning to the station and the two that took their own lives a few days later? Does he have some kind of delayed-reaction problem?

    He will say whatever he wants to say in the moment and doesn't care what happens after that. That nonsense about disinfectant and UV light. Companies were scrambling to get out press releases to the public. A couple died after drinking fish tank cleaner (or something like that). Two more deaths, possibly more, on his hands.

    How dare he go watch those riots on television and had the nerve to call somebody (I can't remember if it was a Senator or not) WHILE the riot was happening basically telling them they had to stop the certification. He is so self-centered and clueless. He has this country on the brink of civil war because of his BS. Not only the ones that died from COVID. He's going to have more blood on his hands if he keeps up his self-serving agenda to detract from all the investigations against him.

    HE.IS.TOTAL.SCUM.

    and I have NEVER said that about another human being (I'm being generous there. He's actually a MONSTER) in my entire life.
     
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    Scum would be the Democrat leaders in DC. Word is it was Chuck Schumer's personal security guard that shot Babbitt. That explains the coverup.
     
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    :roflol:

    Yeah, Right!:roflol::bored:

    I have it on impeccable authority (some guy on the internet) that Babbitt was Shot by BIGFOOT!

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    Btw--Maria has gone "Full Cuckoo":

    Maria Bartiromo, Trump Bashed for Spreading ‘Reckless, Dishonest’ Info About Ashli Babbit’s Death

    Fox News Channel’s Maria Bartiromo and Donald Trump pushed baseless theories on her Sunday show about the shooting death of Ashli Babbit, the insurrectionist who was killed breaking into the U.S. Capitol – and online observers immediately took her to task with one person saying, “Maria has gone full cuckoo.”

    https://www.thewrap.com/maria-bartiromo-dishonest-ashli-babbit-death/
     
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  11. Patricio Da Silva

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    She broke through the door that was between the mob and the Speaker's lobby, where staff members and elected officials were.

    That was the bridge too far. He had no choice but to use deadly force. The killing was scrutinized and it was determined that the Capital Police Office did not violate the law and was justified in the killing, given the circumstance that he was facing, not just her, but the mob behind her.


    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...hecking-donald-trump-there-being-no-reason-s/

    Mullin was in the Speaker’s Lobby behind the officer who shot and killed Babbitt. He said that "when they broke the glass in the back, the (police) lieutenant that was there, him and I already had multiple conversations prior to this, and he didn't have a choice at that time. … The mob was going to come through the door, there was a lot of members and staff that were in danger at the time. And when he (drew) his weapon, that's a decision that's very hard for anyone to make and, once you draw your weapon like that, you have to defend yourself with deadly force."
     
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    You make it sound like she was there all my her little lonesome, poor girl.

    Maybe she had murder on her mind, maybe she didn't, HOWEVER, She had a mob behind her, they were trying to enter the Speaker's lobby where staff and officials were, while they were hollering, 'hang mike pence' shouted to other officers, 'you're going to die today' and shouting 'where's Pelosi'.

    The bullet was the only message that this crowd might understand, when it comes to the safety of personnel. Also, she was shot in the shoulder, so apparently the officer actually tried NOT to kill her, but, of course, bullets don't always behave the way you want them to.

    It did the job, not one mobster went through that door, though broken at this point.

    Sorry righties, y'all not gonna win this one.
     
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    Note that the people who hate Ashli Babbitt and call her names and think she deserved to die are people who claim to not even be democrats. Remember that. She was called a bitch, a whore, ugly.

    It matters because they hate her not for anything she did. They hate her for her beliefs. Because she was a Trump supporter she deserved to die! That is what they really mean.

    For those with 2 IQ points or higher it is obvious I have been making an emphatic sarcastic point here about the double standard.
     
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    So Dereck Chauvin's knee was the message not to resist arrest?
    Jason Van Dyke's bullets were a message to people not to brandish knives at police and to drop those knives when police tell you to?

    Both those men are in prison for their messages.

    You even have the gall to tell us what was in this unnamed officers head when he shot. Really?

    Bottom line is you hate Ashli Babbitt because she did not think like a Biden democrat party drone. That is why she deserved to die.
     
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    I'm sure you were all that. :)
     
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    Irrelevant.
    Bottom line is that you can't accept the truth of her death.

    She crossed the barrier that was protecting Capitol Staff and officials, she had a mob behind who were likely going to follower her, since it was they who were bashing the door down, while shouting 'hang Mike Pence", "Pelosi, where are you?" "You are going to die today" ( insurrectionist said to an officer).

    Given the FACT of that circumstance, lethal force was justified.

    The rest of your post is irrelevant. You can rag on what I speculated, it was just speculation, fine. we speculate all the time on this forum, it's called 'an opinion".

    But the facts of her death are stated, and those facts are not an opinion, and you are ignoring them.
     
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    I though you stopped posting in this thread. Gee, can’t take you at your word anymore.

    Babbit participated in an Insurrection. Once she did that , she opened up all sorts of bad consequences.

    What, you don’t believe people should be responsible for their actions ?
     
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    Wow. Now you're into reading minds. Bizarre behavior. Almost like you take her death personally.

    Nobody hates Babbitt. That's ridiculous.
     
  19. hawgsalot

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    Oh I don't disagree, same in Portland, Same in Seattle, Same in Wisconsin....The problem is no lefty will say so, instead play politics. The hypocrisy is hilarious.
     
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    Game set match, they should listen but they'll tell you how to be in LE.....lol
     
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    The hypocrisy is with Trump supporters.
     
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    I can buy it but can the left buy the Brianna Taylor shooting was also legit considering the officers were fired at? Our the any of the other events that lead to deadly force when officers were attacked. Uh I'll answer for you, the left can't and won't ever look at the circumstances if a white cop kills a black man. They riot, loot and lefties on here justify it all over and over again. Bottom line if this would have been a white cop shooting a black man the left would try to burn the capital down, we would know the cops name and he more than likely would've be fired awaiting trail. The issue my friend is the double standard and the right is doing the EXACT SAME THING THE LEFT DOES in these circumstances to prove a point.
     
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    If that makes you feel better even though I don't think we know the cops name, he hasn't been fired awaiting trial and the right isn't looting and burning cities over this. Things that make you go hmmmm?
     
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    The one thing that the rioters had over Trump supporters, they were doing it over actual events, unlike this made up voter fraud conspiracy.
     
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    The Capitol Police officer that shot Babbit wasn't acting as a democrat or republican, that's an absurd thing to even suggest.

    Off point, off topic. None of that is relevant to the charge that Babbit's shooting was untoward

    So, please stick to the point given.
     
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