China threatens to Nuke Japan

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  1. Tejas

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    I am not hearing voices.
    As usual you are projecting.

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    They have three links to it in the article. It’s called reading
     
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    The Chinese people are proud of their history and former greatness and they're tired of Western arrogance and want to become a power again. It has always been a British policy to weaken nations by pitting them against each other, and we're following suit with the Taiwanese Chinese against China as well as in Ukraine with the Russian Ukrainians against Russia.

    Unless we stop intervening in nations, I foresee a war. Russia and China are too powerful today to accept these things peacefully.


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    I'm known as Thor the God of War.
    I fight on land and fight on shore,
    and listen to the trumpets sound
    while men are dying all around.

    Their cries of pain I hear with glee
    who cares about their misery,
    for being masters of their fate
    emboldens us with scorn and hate
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    I am not a military person, at least not now. I am just quoting what the military strategists say.
    Most of Chinese trade comes through sea lanes controlled by other nations. To become, say,
    an Indian Ocean power, China must control the Malacca Straits.

    A Future Chinese Indian Ocean Fleet? - War on the Rocks
     
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    But you said God talks to you.
     
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    Forbes, Jun 10, 2021

    Other countries have a much more positive perception of the United States now that Joe Biden is in office, according to a Pew Research Center poll released Thursday which shows international opinion has rebounded significantly from the historic lows it hit under Donald Trump.

    In 12 countries surveyed both this year and last, Pew found 75% of respondents expressed confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump in 2020.

    Some 62% of respondents said they now have a favorable view of the U.S., a number that was at 34% by the end of Trump’s tenure.

    The favorable ratings stem from a more positive perception of Biden’s leadership abilities and his policies, the polling shows.

    A median of 77% described Biden as well-qualified to be president versus 16% who felt this way about Trump.

    Meanwhile, a median of 89% across 16 countries surveyed by Pew approved of the U.S. rejoining the World Health Organization and 85% supported the U.S. rejoining the Paris climate agreement.

    Pew deemed the boost in favorability from 2020 to 2021 one of the U.S.’s “steepest recoveries in years,” noting that ratings of the U.S. in most countries were “at or near” historic lows last summer...

    Pew highlights that presidential transitions have had a major impact on overall attitudes toward the U.S. over the past two decades. “When Barack Obama took office in 2009, ratings improved in many nations compared with what they had been during George W. Bush’s administration, and when Trump entered the White House in 2017, ratings declined sharply,” Pew said in an analysis of its polling. Surveys throughout Trump’s presidency tied his global popularity to his leadership style, which majorities found to be “arrogant, intolerant and dangerous,” as well as some of his policies, including his withdrawal from climate change agreements and the Iran nuclear deal.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemima...-changed-from-trump-to-biden/?sh=6579faf51dbd
     
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    Well that makes sense, since China does not even border the INDIAN Ocean; and, as your article noted, to ship things between itself & Africa or the Middle East, for example, China must use (and/or it is most practical for it to use) shipping lanes controlled by other nations. This situation does not really apply to Taiwan, vis a vis China having access to the China Sea.
     
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    China foresaw the US 7th fleet blockading its cargo ships in the S. China Seas and hurting its trade years ago, and that's why it started its Belt and Road initiative. I doubt China has designs on the Indian Ocean. Right now they're negotiating with Afghanistan to help rebuild the country, and surprisingly with Syria as well.

    It seems that whenever we make a mess of other nations, China steps in to help them economically and buys them up. Shrewd business men those Chinamen.
     
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    God can "talk" to His people in many different ways... via the Bible, inspiration, intuition, symbols, dreams, compelling, synchronicity, history/current events [as they relate to Bible prophecy]... and yes, even an actual audible voice [as God spoke with Moses in the Bible.]

    But you are wrong when you infer I said God has actual audible conversations with me.

    Maybe God should have a conversation with YOU about bearing false witness.

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    Well yeah… who did they poll? Iran? why do I care what other countries think about us? Trump came in to and cut funding to many of them, of coarse they won’t be happy about that. What other countries think about us holds little water with me
     
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    Sure, but the military see it this way - controlling Taiwan gives China
    safe access to the Pacific - there's no choke point, no-one controlling
    your sea lanes.
    America has two large coasts with two oceans - there's no sea lanes
    for anyone to controll. This was the dilemna facing the German u-boats.
     
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    Come on, Jeannette, you know the history, better than that. And, by now, you should realize that I'm going to call you on that kind of bilge-water. Taiwan is where the former government of China escaped to, in China's civil war, when the forces of the Republic of China (ROC) lost control of the mainland, in 1949. There was hardly any need for a third party to pit, "the Taiwanese Chinese against China."

    And as far as the U.S., pitting the Ukrainians & Russians against one another-- who allowed its soldiers to go into Ukraine to fight with regions which were trying to break away from the country? Wasn't it the same country that annexed another, autonomous part of Ukraine: Crimea? One more clue-- it wasn't the U.S. (or the U.K., either, for that matter).
     
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    I used to think that, but now I think it is only in the DNA of a few. Unfortunately, those few are such narcissists and sociopaths, that they will ruin lives and enslave humanity to keep themselves in power. I think the world is slowly waking up, and the madmen are going to be thrown down. All the corruption is becoming exposed at a rate that we have never seen in history, and I think it is going to bring changes soon. I hope.
     
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    1) I don't remember Trump threatening to use nuclear weapons.
    2) China and Russia were issuing such threats long before Trump ever even thought of running for president.
     
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    1) He sure did
    2) I never heard of any nuclear threats previous.
     
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    1) Citation needed.
    2) I remember in the late 1990s a Chinese military officer threatened to nuke Los Angeles (IIRC) if the U.S. intervened in a conflict between China and Taiwan.
     
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    As your post points out, having undisputed ownership of your own coastal waters is a great defensive advantage. Had the German Third Reich been able to invade and take over Britian, before the U.S. got into the war, it would have presented us with a considerably more difficult challenge, to liberate Europe.

    Sure, if there was a war, having opposing forces on Taiwan could put some limitations on Chinese offensive efforts, further out to sea. But right now, Taiwan is not really hampering the Chinese navy. It would only be in the midst of hostilities, which involved some major power, in which that would come into play. That's why, whether China had designs on invading its neighbors (as you seem to think), or not (as I believe), securing its coastal perimeter, i.e., gaining control over Taiwan, would be a seen as a precaution, a good defensive move (just as having a hefty presence among the islands of the South China Sea, sets up a thorny barricade to any other naval power that would intend a hostile approach).

    While I have seen China's posturing, directed toward Taiwan, as merely intimidation tactics, up to now-- with the immediate Chinese concern being only that these Chinese who are permitted to live in a democratic, free society, do so, quietly-- yet I can see it being bad PR for the Communist regime, having the mainlanders see this nearby contrast, in lifestyle. At some point, it may be deemed worth the cost, in the worldwide bad PR, for China to do away with this encouraging evoker of liberty, and of revolutionary aspirations.

    If China were going overboard in trying to insure that Japan would keep its distance, it could be because the Chinese have surmised the same thing as myself: that it would be impractical for the U.S. to insert its own forces into such a conflict, to save far off Taiwan from a threat which, even if the U.S. were successful, would remain forever, just offshore. What would necessarily change this, would be if China got into a fight with a country which was an official U.S. military ally, like Japan or South Korea.
     
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    Lol you are infatuated with Trump and his… Worm lol

    get over it
     
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    This business of 'strategic ambiguity' is a neat concept.
    No-one knows if America would defend Taiwan in a hot war, not even Americans.
    But someone asked this recently in a publication, 'Would Taiwan be America's Poland?'
    And it could. 'Losing' Taiwan means a lot more to America and China than a large island
    suddenly becoming a part of the Chinese Communist Party - its strategic loss, and trade
    loss, and technology loss, and face loss, and credibility loss.
    And IMO, it's a war, that should it start, would be right up America's alley - no jungles,
    no mountains, no Jihadis, just good ol' fashioned aircraft carriers, F16's, F36's, cruise missiles,
    marines, foward island bases, submarines... the works.
     
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    I wish you were right. It all comes down to the two ideas, the 'original sin' of Judea Christianity
    or the Marxist's idea of corrupted institutions.
    Marxists say we can change human nature (ie equality will end stealing and giving dolls to boys
    will reduce aggression etc) and Christians believe we are born with a human nature that we must
    strive against.
    Which is it? Wars against human nature, from Stalin's collectivization, Mao's Cultural Revolution to
    today's woke warriors are not going to work. People are people. War, competition, jealousy, anger
    etc are in every one of us. And have been so long, long before we became modern humans.
     
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    It was not false witness, because I assumed you actually heard God speak to you. You should have specified in which way He spoke to you - that is if it was God.


    Regardless, it can never be our God since racism and partiality towards white European Christendom would go against God's creative nature.

    Besides, white European Christendom has ceased to exist. You should pay more attention to what's going on in the world. It's this goat guy below that reigns now supreme in the EU.



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    Whatever's false they'll say it's true
    and throw the lies back onto you.

    And what is right they'll say it's wrong.
    Then woe to all, it won't be long.

    When everyone will wear a frown.
    For what is 'up', they'll call it 'down'.

    Then try to make the day a night

    so dark can reign, without the light. - Jeannette
     
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