The REAL enemy are not the unvaccinated.

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  1. Condor060

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    Don't tell Phizer that
    Pfizer Gets $1.95 Billion to Produce Coronavirus Vaccine by Year’s End
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/22/us/politics/pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine.html

    As nations around the world race to lock up coronavirus vaccines even before they are ready, the Trump administration on Wednesday made one of the largest investments yet, announcing a nearly $2 billion contract with Pfizer and a German biotechnology company for 100 million doses by December.
     
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  2. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    NO. But that doesn't matter. NOBODY said the vaccine was "perfect" or that vaccinated people are "bulletproof" (against Covid, of course). THAT is anti-vaxer propaganda.

    Admit it!
     
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    Sheesh.
    Good time to stop it all that arguing. It ain't going anywhere.
     
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  4. Condor060

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    Oh, so now you're down to exact words? Getting that desperate are ya?
    Most people think when the president claims
    You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations
    Means vaccinated people won't get Covid.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And the same people repeated the same thing until they were told to believe something different.
     
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    Funny how that works
     
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    No! I'm not asking for exact words. But "bulletproof" is not the same as "you're not going to the hospital" or "you're not going to die". Besides the fact that Tucker Carlson's words were BEFORE Biden's. Which Biden CORRECTED anyway. And Tucker didn't.

    And there is also the part about his dismissing the dangers of not being vaccinated to "social control". You asked for one example of Tucker's propaganda, and I gave you TWO. You can pick whichever you want. And if you were a serious poster, you would ACKNOWLEDGE from those two example alone (even though there are more) that he spreads anti-vaxer propaganda.
     
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    Translation: I got nothing.
     
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    How about You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations

    Yet another one of your exaggerations trying to save face. You like a fish flopping on the deck of a boat.
    There was NOTHING in his monolog about dismissing the dangers of not being vaccinated. His remark was in regards too his previous comment.
    If the government can ban discussion of the drug they are making you take, what can't they do? And, by the way, it's worth wondering, why are they doing this now? Why are they expanding censorship of conversation about the pandemic as the pandemic recedes?

    Thats what he was referring too in his social control comment. Are you actually that disconnected from reality or is this just another failed attempt at trolling?

    And both of your ridiculous exaggerated provisions were shot down in flames. You are not a serious poster. All you try and do is take comments out of context for more worthless drivel. You either have no clue or your are knowingly falsifying claims.

    Just an FYI, Your boy (Biden) didn't even fair well with CNN from their own town hall broadcast so you can stop all the fakery.
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/22/politics/fact-check-biden-cnn-town-hall-july/index.html

    Washington (CNN)
    Fact check: Biden makes false claims about Covid-19, auto prices and other subjects at CNN town hall

    President Joe Biden participated Wednesday in the second CNN town hall of his presidency, taking questions from anchor Don Lemon and local residents in Cincinnati.

    As he did at his February town hall, Biden made a number of false or misleading claims. We haven't been able to look into every single thing he said Wednesday night, but here is a rundown on some of his remarks.

    Calling on Americans to get vaccinated against Covid-19, Biden said, "If you're vaccinated, you're not going to be hospitalized, you're not going to be in the ICU unit and you're not going to die." In another exchange moments later, Biden said that even if vaccinated people do "catch the virus," they are "not likely to get sick."

    But then, during a third exchange, Biden said that since the vaccines "cover" the highly transmissible Delta variant of the virus: "You're not going to get Covid if you have these vaccinations."

    Sounds more like Tucker and CNN hit the nail on the head. I guess CNN is now spreading anti vaxing information according to you. lol
     
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    Happy to see you admit it. That's a first step. Now you need to GET something. Like.... you know... facts!
     
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    Misrepresenting peoples' posts as always.
     
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    For the hundredth time. He corrected that right away! It's in YOUR OWN link
    BIDEN, asked about vaccinated people who get infected: “It may be possible, I know of none where they’re hospitalized, in ICU and or have passed away so at a minimum I can say even if they did contract it, which I’m sorry they did, it’s such a tiny percentage and it’s not life threatening.” — remarks to reporters after the event.

    He is referring to what he said: that the government's "anger" is not about COVID. There is no need to figure out what he is referring to. He said it! Plain and simple. Pure propaganda!

    So you are leaving it clear that you will twist and turn, regardless of what facts hit you right on the face, so you don't have to acknowledge facts that you know are evident.

    Duly noted....
     
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    More fake information PROVING you have no clue what you're talking about and just spewing leftist propaganda.
    His quotes were in this EXACT order
    1. If you're vaccinated, you're not going to be hospitalized, you're not going to be in the ICU unit and you're not going to die
    2. Even if vaccinated people do "catch the virus," they are "not likely to get sick
    3. And last but not least, You're not going to get Covid if you have these vaccinations.

    So you're propaganda theory got shot down yet again.​


    Again, you're falsifying information. He said the governments anger was against the unvaccinated. As far as the rest of it, its more than obvious you have a major reading comprehension problem. NOBODY but you thinks his remarks had anything to do with vaccinations or lack there of since there is NOTHING in his entire monolog that makes ANY claim about it.

    Additionally he made it absolutely clear what he was talking about. Not one single poster (except you) would even attempt to take a single sentence of his quote and try and twist into an anti vaxing comment.

    As per usual, you just made it up in your mind. Hell, You can't even quote what he said properly.

    If you can even quote a printed text properly, how do you even expect anyone to think you have a clue about what you're discussing?
    I have never EVER run across anyone as intellectually dishonest as you are.
     
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    What a pathetic excuse! This was a gaffe Biden made days after Tucker Carlson's antivaxer comment.

    To summarize: I gave you TWO examples of anti-vaxer propaganda by Tucker Carlson.

    One was this "bulletproof" comment. Your excuse is that Tucker is precognitive and was quoting Biden of the future. A gaffe that Biden made AFTER Tucker's propaganda. And which Biden corrected the same day at the same event.

    And then his comment about it not being about Covid, but about "social control". First you claimed I had taken it out of context, when I provided his comments leading up to the claim (which changed absolutely NOTHING), you denied that he said it. When I again showed you that he DID say it, you claimed he was quoting somebody else. When it was clear that he didn't, .... I don't even know what your new excuse is supposed to be after that.

    But here's the thing, you make up excuse after excuse to deny reality. Serious question: What would be the purpose of debating anything with somebody who is just going to deny reality? There are several posters in this forum who do that. I don't expect any sort of serious arguments from them. So I don't waste much time on them. But I was holding on to hope that you wouldn't be one of them. Looks like I was wrong about that.

    Thanks for playing...
     
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    You wouldn't know what taken out of context means if it hit you in the face.
    You should go bother someone else who has the same reading comprehension as you.
    The proof is in the hundreds of posters who interact with you. Need I say more?
     
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    Riiiiiiiiight. There was nothing for them to join, but they got federal money. Except for Pfizer.

    You really are clueless, OR you're just a right-wing shill and apologist for the disaster that was the Dirty Donnie administration.

    Either way, you and you're little buddy Hoosier8 are known shills for the right and regurgitating right wing propaganda.

    Which makes your posts useless to anyone with an IQ higher than a fence post.

    Got any more entertainment to share ?
     
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    Again, a right wing distortion. Pfizer was first with a product. This was a PURCHASE of an existing product.
    It's that simple, even for your fence-post IQ.
     
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    Biden gave the prior administration credit for getting the vaccine.

    When Trump was saying that we would get the vaccine by Thanksgiving, "scientists" were saying it would be years.
     
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    Wow ! And Dirty Donnie knew this how ?
    He didn't. You can say it, he was guessing in hopes it would be out in time for the election. Pure self-interest.
     
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    He may have been guessing, but he was closer to right than the so called scientists.
     
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    Hmmm
    First you said
    But then Pfizer claimed they received $1.95 Billion to Produce Coronavirus Vaccine.

    So who should I believe. Left wing nuts or the actual company that received the money.
    So hard to make decisions these days. I mean its not like you can find a single media outlet discussing it. Right?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/22/us/politics/pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine.html
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/pfizer...vaccine-order-from-u-s-government-11595418221
    https://www.deccanherald.com/scienc...coronavirus-vaccine-by-year-s-end-864459.html
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexan...-of-planned-covid-19-vaccine/?sh=2d930c1353d0
    https://www.kff.org/news-summary/u-...large-clinical-trials-for-vaccines-therapies/
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/22/health/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-government-contract/index.html
     
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    bingo, you're proving my point, the vaccine was already created and in trials before warp speed was even a thing
     
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    Looks like post #222 already addressed this. And with your own words.
    LMAO
     
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    Apparently it is being reported that a CDC memo was leaked pointing out they should change from testing every nose for the virus to concentrating on taking care of symptomatic patients and recovery issues. It also reports 35,000 symptomatic cases a week among the vaccinated.
     
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    And without OWS, it would still be sitting in trials today with its first availability in about 5 years.
    You're welcome
     
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