Biden to speak live on Afghanistan @ 3:45 PM EST

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Will he talk his way out of this fiasco?

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  3. He'll mess up so bad, it will be on SNL Saturday

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  4. He's not Trump, so who cares?

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  1. Wynn Sayer

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    I hope he'll man up and accept responsibility, since he made the call. Not sure how binding the agreement between Trump and Taliban was, but I don't think it forced Biden's hand.
     
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    MAAFA (Make Afghanistan American-Free Again). Oops! :lol:
     
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    No. Everyone in America and the world will remember who was the inept potus of the USA when this happened. And R s will use that in the 2022 and 2024 elections. He should just resign now. Or the Dems should impeach him.
     
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    Dems started the war (in Afghanistan), Dems should finish it. 8)
     
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    Let’s hope that Xiden resigns today at 3:45. Put him out to pasture, tell him he’s going to the 8 year old petting zoo.
     
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    Huh? I thought that was Bush.
     
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    Unlikely to happen, but I'm curious to see what does after this massive fail.
     
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    From what I understand, Biden ignored that agreement (Because tRump!) and that's why the Taliban is taking over.
    Biden thought it would be better optics if he broke the deal Trump signed with The Taliban and waited until 9/11.
    That made the Taliban mad so they started taking over.
    So this fail was entirely preventable.
     
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    That's not how blame-game works.

    What would a success look like? We had a "deal" with Taliban which puts them in power and now they are in power. Did this deal have to be honored? No, but they honored it, so now that country is going down the tubes as expected.

    No, the agreement was with Taliban specifically (no one else) to put them in power, or shared power, but only a child would think they'd actually share anything.
     
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    Biden did not honor the deal made with the Taliban so now they are taking the power by force.

    Probably not millions of dollars in weapons and equipment left behind and 10s of thousands of unnecessary deaths and rapes.

    This is a screw up of epic proportion.

    I can't think of any US president that has screwed up this largely.
    I'm trying, help me out here.
     
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    What did you think the peace deal with Taliban was all about? It was about transitioning power to Taliban in exchange of US leaving the country. Why would they agree to anything less? How Trump thought terrorists would honor any kind of deal is beyond me, but it is what it is.

    Here is Trump trying to take credit for the pull-out.
    “I started the process, all the troops are coming home, they (Biden) couldn’t stop the process. 21 years is enough. They (Biden) couldn’t stop the process, they (Biden) wanted to but couldn’t stop the process.” “Under my Administration, all civilians and equipment would have been removed,” - Trump, 1 month ago

    Either way, Biden made the final call to pull out, so he owns the situation.

    Republicans delete webpage celebrating Trump’s deal with Taliban
    Page touting former president’s ‘historic peace agreement’ disappeared over the weekend
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...cs/rnc-trump-kabul-taliban-deal-b1903364.html
    “President Trump has continued to take the lead in peace talks as he signed a historic peace agreement with the Taliban in Afghanistan, which would end America’s longest running war,” read the web page before it was taken down.


    Eeehhhh.....Everyone involved in Vietnam. We lost 3000 in Afghanistan, but we lost 56 000 in Vietnam and out involvement there was far larger than any point of Afghanistan. We had over 500 000 troops there for several years.

    We had nothing to gain in Afghanistan, and everyone know what would happen when we left. The only other option would have been to leave forces there indefinitely, like we did with South Korea and some other places. That may have been a better option, but it seems that most Americans wanted us out.
     
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    When Xoe speaks today at 3:45 all that will come out of his mouth is stupid, a whole lot of stupid.
    Let’s see how he tries to cover his azz.
     
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    By May, and May is long gone. Biden thought he was going to make them wait.

    A lot of people will suffer and a lot of money is lost due to Joe's ..what's a word for "self-aggrandizing foolish cockiness"?
     
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    Ok. Yes, by May. If that is what you meant, then you are correct. He was couple of months late.

    Like I said, Biden made the final call, and he could have decided to stay, but he pulled the trigger and here we are. He owns it. We'll see what he says in 45 minutes.


    https://twitter.com/theNuzzy/status...55184.ampproject.net/2107302322001/frame.html
     
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    Well, maybe he's running this speech like his Afghani withdrawal.
     
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    At least one thing most people should agree with: Americans should not fight for a people who are not willing to fight for themselves.

    The truth is that Afghans made deals with Taliban and gave up without a fight.
     
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    This guy is such a lying politician, and a bad one at that.
    His words right now are going to be played alongside footage of those people dying.
     
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    What are you referring to?
     
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    Saying they're going to get all these people out. It's over.

    Millions of dollars in weapons and equipment left behind. So irresponsible.
    Bagram was the stronghold, that's fallen.
    The US embassy there is done.
     
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    According to Google Translate Segure (Portugese) means "hold".

    Meaning? The weapons which were given to Afghan forces might end up with Taliban, but we have been hauling our equipment out since May.

    The 6000 US troops sent there are to make sure our people are coming out safely.

    All in all, the speech was not bad. It makes sense we should not spend another 20 years fighting for people who wont fight for themselves. He also accepted responsibility for making the call.
     
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    Is Biden Brazilian or Portuguese?
    Or did he read the teleprompter wrong.
     
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