Biden decides not to go beyond Aug. 31st deadline.

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  1. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

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    Biden is in charge. You can keep repeating "this is on TRUMP" in desperation. But Biden is in charge and he has been exposed as being mentally incompetent, cowardly, and dishonorable.

    Will the verdict of history lay some blame on Trump, Obama, or Bush. I would say the answer is yes. But the disgraceful fiasco in progress in owned by Biden.
     
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    Would you have stayed there after it became public knowledge over a year ago that US was leaving and turning a country over to Taliban?

    Its a simple question.

    Or would you have stayed a year and wait for someone to send you a text and tell you that you can leave now? Seems obvious you need someone (the government) to make such decisions for you.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    AJ, let’s say you’re the head coach of a football team and you picked all the assistant coaches and players only to lose the game. Are you going to blames last year’s head coach for your loss?
     
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    Your kidding right? Embassy staff stayed, support for them stayed, reporters stayed and humanitarian workers fighting for women's rights stayed, doctors and nurses trying to help the people stayed we could do this all day. Just because you would run at the first sign doesn't mean others with a higher calling aren't willing to give to those in need. Even a lefty WAPO reporter styed until British special forces saved her and her crew two days ago. You go ahead and blame the people though, it's tells us exactly who you are. I just watched an interview with a man that his wife, a Biden supporter, was training female teachers in the heart of Afghanistan. She was contacted a week ago by the state department to get to the airport but can't get past the checkpoint 100 miles away. He's contacted the state department his senator and talking to everyone who can help but as of today there is no chance she's getting out. Hey it's her fault though Pro Line.....
     
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    Pompeo can tell us what the detailed Trump plan for withdrawal was.
     
  6. hawgsalot

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    and of course it wouldn't change a damn thing because Trump hasn't led this country in 7 months. Your rabbit hole doesn't help the people stranded in Afghanistan. Seems obvious you don't give a crap for anything but covering based on partisan politics.
     
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    No, its a simple question.

    And your answer is?

    A teacher? WHY did she stay until the last minute? She has over a YEAR to get the heck out. Would you have stayed knowing Taliban was taking over?

    Is it a complicated question?
     
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    Joe Biden told Stephanopoulos less than a week ago: “If there’s American citizens left, we’re gonna stay till we get them all out.”
     
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    The WH lied about the pull out and now has no plans to help Americans.
     
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    They didn't lie. The WH said in 2020 that US had made a deal with Taliban and was pulling out. It was very clear.

    Would you have stayed knowing Taliban was taking over?

    When I was a kid we lived overseas, and we evacuated when it became obvious there was going to be a war. We didn't wait for the government to tell us when it was the right time to leave. We left as soon as we could. The sooner the better is the right time.

    No one here wants to answer the question, and no one seems to know who those people are and why they chose to stay.
     
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    And yet, we will trust their COVID numbers unquestionably, amiright?
     
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    Sure the WH lied. Did you just wake up from a coma?
     
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    I'm sure it involves "lips to ass and a ton of cash" that's the only thing the DNC has ever in it's foreign policies act...
     
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    Of course if I worked for the state department or on a humanitarian mission with my government's military keeping guard over the city. Kabul wasn't a dangerous place three weeks ago, the military was there. If the military sent a message we were getting leaving on x day you can bet I would have left. Problem is our military left without our citizens, then we're up up to over 500 million bucks to send 3x more troops that were there, right back in to guard a f'ing airport and planes to get our citizens out. I think its fairly clear this administration knows if f'd up otherwise you wouldn't see this uncoordinated scramble. Keep on blaming the people though, funny the administration is NOW AFTER THE FACT committed to getting our people out.
     
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    Are you saying they lied about the deal with Taliban? It would certainly not surprise me knowing who cracked the deal, but it has proven to be true. A deal was indeed made, and Biden chose to honor it for whatever reason.
     
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    It is impossible to know what Trump would have done if he had been in charge for the last seven months. What we do know is that Biden is the MFIC and this horrendous disaster falls to him, not to anyone else.
     
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    Yes, he owns it, and even admitted as much. He could have chosen to dishonor the pull-out deal. I don't think he is worried about 2024 because it doesn't plan to run. He might even resign. Who knows.
     
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    At least Biden owned up to it. We all know that the last guy takes no responsibility for anything.
     
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    Not comparable.

    Last year's coach picked the people, dates, times and location for the game.
    This year's coach inherited all that and made good on last dude's negotiations with bad people.
     
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    We (Miami Dolphins fans) blamed Dave Wannsteadt for years after he had gone, because the damage he did to the roster took years to undo. He even traded away the draft picks. So, depending on the scenario, it can be reasonable thing to do. I this case, Trump made a terrible deal with the terrorists, but Biden was in position to undo it, but chose honor the deal.
     
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    That's not impossible to know.

    Trump has never done anything*.
    He ignored COVID.
    He ignored the economy.
    He didn't fix Marketplace.
    He didn't put Hillary in jail.
    He didn't produce Obama's birth certificate.
    He hasn't produced even a Post-it of election fraud evidence.

    If he is such a go-getter, why didn't he pull them out in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, January 1- January 20, 2021?

    * One-exception - He did help a couple R&Ds with OWS.

    He overpromises and under-delivers. That's all he does except sow division and hatred and spread lies. And, all his groupies stand around waiting for him to deliver the next big thing and IT NEVER COMES TO FRUITION.

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    Oh? Hmm, who were those Bundeswehr troops that were involved in a firefight at Kabul airport two days ago...? Link: https://www.foxnews.com/us/deadly-f...tional-airport-leaves-one-afghan-officer-dead

    And, if you don't like Fox as a source, you'll find LOTS of other links, including Bild.de, if you can read German.

    And if you know someone on active duty in the Bundeswehr, or if you have a friend in the BundeswehrVerband (DBwV), you may be able to, uh, update your knowledge about this....

    Sorry to ruin your lovely snark....
     
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    Your claim was there there are 1000 of them stuck somewhere and can't get out, and that turned out to be bogus. So, there are some temporarily assisting the evacuations at the Kabul airport. Heck there are even some from Finland. Nice attempt at trying to move the goal posts.
     
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    Biden just gave a 15 minute presser, half on domestic, half on AF.

    Probably the best I've ever seen him speak, which admittedly is not a high bar...

    70,700 out since 8/14... Not too shabby.

    He may have partially boned up the opening move by assuming the Afghans could handle their own country for 90 days, but he's nailing the middle game...

    End game still to go... Next week hopefully....
     
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    You leftists can't seem to separate the fact that there was a deal from the fact that we had no internal plan to deal with the exit. They're two different things. Let me know when you figure out that there is a difference.

    Til then, you're just off in la la land.
     
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