Oregon Governor signs new law allowing students to graduate without proving they can read, write, or

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not true, but believe what you want
     
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    Do you have a a direct link to the new rules in place or is that optional?
     
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    Precisely the opposite.

    It supported standards-based education reform based on the premise that setting high standards and establishing measurable goals could improve individual outcomes in education. The Act required states to develop assessments in basic skills. To receive federal school funding, states had to give these assessments to all students at select grade levels.
    No Child Left Behind Act - Wikipedia
     
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    Democrats and their social programs have nothing to do with socialism as a social and political system.
    I am sure that all social programs of the Democrats are an attempt to gain political advantage, but not a concern for the US population.
    In a capitalist economy, the creation of unsecured benefits is a direct path to inflation.
    And as a positive example - the USSR during the time of Comrade Stalin.
    During this period, the USSR had a planned economy and any social event could take place only after the real provision of the Russian ruble with goods and services. Therefore, all the social achievements of the USSR during the time of Comrade Stalin, such as 100% free education at any level, 100% free medical care at any level, increased wages and lower prices for goods did not lead to inflationary consequences. Consequently, there could be no crisis in the economy of the USSR.
    Compare with the Great Depression in the United States. In the same time.
    And one more example - in 1945, the most terrible war in the history of mankind ended, the USSR was completely destroyed, more than 20 million of the most active population of the USSR died in the war ... But just 15 years later, Gagarin flew into space for the first time in the history of mankind.
     
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    No wonder. This is just the beginning - one of the steps towards degradation.
    43 million Americans -- said to include R. Kelly -- struggle to read and write https://abcnews.go.com/Health/43-mi...e-kelly-struggle-read-write/story?id=64507659
     
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    In other words, you have no arguments ... However, it was expected.
     
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    You seriously didn't read past the headline. Hint: It has absolutely nothing to do with quality of education.
     
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    100% true.
     
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    Yuri Gagarin's success rode on the backs of a lot of captured German scientists after WWII... same is true of our early space program in the States.

    Social programs are byproduct of Socialism. When you mash all the air bubbles out of the argument, any system in which elected government representatives pander to a country's population with 'free stuff' uses the so-called 'egalitarian' ploys associated with Socialism. No, not the "methods of production", orthodox definition, but rather the aspects of it which provide that "something-for-nothing" proposition that I mentioned before... here in America, it's been loosely described as as "Socialism-Lite"....

    Simply put, when government, through taxation, 'means-testing', or simply "changing the deal" takes money and/or benefits away from a person who -- playing by the rules -- has EARNED his money/benefits, and then GIVES them to someone who has NOT earned the money/benefits, you see "Socialism" and its byproducts on display.
     
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    1. Of course the USSR used some German developments in its space program. So is the United States. But the basis of cosmonautics was created by Soviet scientists - Tsiolkovsky, Korolev ... and many others. And I do not see anything wrong with the use of scientific developments of other people.
    Otherwise, you would have to reinvent the wheel and the bike every time.
    2. As Comrade Lenin said - "Socialism is the lowest, underdeveloped stage of communism, which has retained the rudiments of the old system ...." such, for example, as money.
    Therefore, the talk that this elite, hiding behind their own benefits, distributes some bonuses to the population is complete nonsense.
    What is a state? According to the classics, the state is the dictatorship of the ruling class in the interests of the ruling class.
    For example, in the United States (and in modern Russia) the ruling class is oligarchs. Therefore, the state does everything in the interests of the oligarchs.
    In the USSR during the time of Comrade Stalin, the proletariat was the ruling class. Consequently, the USSR, as a state, did everything in the interests of the ruling class, that is, in the interests of the working people.
    And from here follows 100% free education, and 100% free medical care, and leave for women to care for a child (in the USSR, such leave (100% paid) was called "maternity leave." Because it was adopted by a special decree in 1917), and free housing, and many, many others.
     
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    Half the population cannot read and comprehend a newspaper as things are and have been for a while. That makes for a very weak, fragile democracy. In whose interests are such a situation?
     
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    ???? Of course standardized testing of students and their results have EVERYTHING to do with quality of education. No doubt youve convinced yourself that standardized testing is all just a nefarious plot to keep the black man down.
     
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    I see you haven't read it, either.
     
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    Yes I did. Did you have a point other than what you think others have or have not read?........... I didnt think so.
     
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    You did not.
     
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    String together a few words, make a relevant point, if you can. Relevant to the topic of the thread OR the snopes article Ive read twice.
     
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    Sorry for the lack of clarity. I'm talking about the article linked by our jealous Russian friend: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/43-mi...e-kelly-struggle-read-write/story?id=64507659

    He wanted to use this to attack our education system, but education is not the issue there.
     
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    Riiiight, in response to my post you quoted stating-

    "???? Of course standardized testing of students and their results have EVERYTHING to do with quality of education."

    You thought I was talking about an article about R-Kelly. Id say you didnt read the *******ned post you decided to quote and respond to with this smart ass, meaningless BS.
     
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    Don't be angry. Just try harder.
     
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    Read my posts before you quote and reply to them. And nothing in your post gave any indication as to which article you were referring to. Write better posts. AND absurd to think that R Kelly graduating every grade to get into High School without being able to read isnt related to the quality of education.
     
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    You clearly didn't pay enough attention to realize what I was talking about before you piped up to attack me in the first place.

    Do better.
     
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    Lol then why not have them take the tests? If the quality of education is just as good, what’s precluding them from testing?
     
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    BINGO! A well-constructed test is based on the material TAUGHT.

    So, if a student knows that material, why in hell shouldn't they score at least well enough to pass?!
     
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    Just give everyone a high school certificate at birth and be done with it. Save a lot of taxpayer money.
     
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