Muslim ER doctor charged with female genital mutilation of nine girls

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  1. Lil Mike

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    America, 2021

    Muslim ER doctor charged with female genital mutilation of nine girls aged just seven 'was part of secret network which traveled across US to perform agonizing procedure,' Detroit court hears

    Handy breakdown here:

    • Dr. Jumana Nagarwala appeared in court Thursday charged with lying about performing genital mutilation on nine girls, all seven years old
    • Prosecutors accused her of belonging to a group of physicians that traveled across the country performing the brutal surgeries
    • Nagarwala was cleared of mutilation charges in November 2018, after a federal judge ruled that a law banning the practice was unconstitutional
    • Prosecutors put forth a series of new charges in March, alleging that she lied to the FBI and intimidated others to do the same
    • She is fighting to dismiss the case and called the new indictments 'retaliation'

    Lying to the FBI seems to be one of those crimes that you only get charged with if you are in the outs with the authorities, so I'm surprised. I'll be curious to see how far this goes.

    Meanwhile I wonder if the good doctor is still traveling the country performing Female Genitial Mutilation?
     
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    Backwards savages.
     
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    different culture. hard to judge.
     
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    The appropriate punishment needs to be handed out to all that were involved, i.e. the network, to send a clear message that this will not be tolerated. Sad for the girls.
     
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    AND a woman to boot, wonder if she had this holy sacrament performed on her too. QUICK NOW....someone lecture us ALL ABOUT those rascally Christians.....the better to deflect any criticisms of THIS untouchable religion's "enlightened" practices.;)
     
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    ...but the Crusades!

    mic drop.
     
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    I'll bite

    FGM in Africa:

    Here are some countries with Christians being more involved in FGM than Muslims:

    Ethiopia:
    Population 110 million
    Number of Christians : 65% Christian --> 71 million Christians
    Number of Muslims : 35% Muslim --> 38 million Muslims

    From the bar chart:
    90% of Muslim FGM --> 34 million Muslims
    70% of Christians FGM --> 50 million Christians

    Kenya
    Population 50 million
    Number of Christians : 70% Christian --> 35 million Christians
    Number of Muslims : 6% Muslim --> 3 million Muslim

    From the bar chart:
    50% of Muslim FGM --> 1.5 million Muslims
    25% of Christians FGM --> 9 million Christians

    Liberia:
    Population 5 million
    Number of Christians : 85% Christian --> 4.25 million Christians
    Number of Muslims : 12% Muslim --> 600 thousand Muslim

    From the bar chart:
    80% of Muslim FGM --> 480,000
    60% of Christians FGM --> 2,550,000

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    https://data.unicef.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/fgmc_U83FGM_9_web_Finalversionprinted_97.pdf

    All circumcision, male or female, is barbaric child abuse
     
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    How many American Christians practice female genital mutilation?
     
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    Too many
     
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    I've never heard of a single one, not female circumcision..
     
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    It's all done illegally so you're unlikely to hear about it. Just one case is one too many. And the probability is that some from those African countries quoted in my earlier post living in the US would have brought their traditions with them
     
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    I have heard of many (relatively) incidences of muslims practicing FGM in the USA.

    Never heard of one incident of a Christian practicing such in the USA.
     
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    PS, clicking on your link automatically downloads a PDF file.
     
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    The reasoning is that if women do not enjoy sex thy will not be tempted to go out and get pregnant by some male

    Hmmmm. Something about that thinking puts me in mind of the litany of posts I have read about “women who cannot control themselves”.

    It is disgusting and it is NOT repeat NOT a part of Islamic teaching
     
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    That is more to do with cultural influences but given the posts I have read around abortion not a few would rather RE-introduce the chastity belt
     
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    both male and female circumcisions is genital mutilation
     
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    Are you an Islamic scholar?
     
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    Going to disagree there. Islam has spread the practice from its likely origins in Africa across parts of the Islamic world in a way that is dramatically less common for Christian & Jewish practitioners. While it is not a consistent part of Islamic teaching, it is most definitely promoted by Islamic clerics in different parts of the world.

    Religions want us to believe are what they say they are - the best versions of themselves. I find it odd how easily people are prepared to accept this in a way they never would if it was a government or huge company. Religions are what they do. All of it. Good and bad. The Catholic Church is not defined by the Crusades, the Inquisition & mass child abuse, but they are as much a part of it as the morality it teaches & the good works performed in its name. Islam is not defined by suicide bombers, sex slavery and FGM, but they are as much a part of it as the morality it teaches & the good works performed in its name.

    That said, Christians don't get to play the 'its culture not religion card' for their faith and then dump on Islam for this. Islam is worse, but Christianity is still unacceptable. However, as you have already seen, Christians are great at assiging responsibility and poor at taking it. Religions are good at that too.
     
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    U.S. woman says strict Christian parents subjected her to FGM

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-religion-fgm-idUSKCN1RD2LI
     
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    I say let the children decide for themselves when they become adults if they want to mutilate their genitals, male or female
     
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    I'd say it's slightly more evident that certain religions are a bit more radical and dangerous than others. Circumcision is hardly on the same level of destructiveness as FGM.. FGM's entire concept is to take the pleasure out of sex and keep the female submissive and a baby making factory. Trump rightfully took issue with Islam as it's apparent that a dangerous percentage of people with Islamic beliefs and values have radical values.

    That's just the reality of the situation. BUT. Hey! Let em all in right? They vote democrat, typically. What's the worse that could happen?
     
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    Please don't allow @FreshAir to derail the thread onto male circumcision's. That's a totally different topic, but every time FGM comes up in this forum, that poster is there to try to derail it.
     
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    Perhaps you could explain why an anti-FGM campaigner, would lie having FGM forced on her especially as she created an online campaign following the collapse of the trial in 2019 involving the same Muslim doctor as in this OP?

     
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    I do not support the genital mutilation of male or female children.... to me they are the same, not sure why anyone would support them
     
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