MY POINT

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  1. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's nice to find someone -to-blame. Yes, it was the Replicant Party that (since Ronny RayGun) that started their long-term effort to lower upper-income taxation. Which, as I have said here many a time, is the reason that so much Wealth has gone to families who already had FAR more than enough. This new phenomenon in the US called "Overnight Millionaires" spawned by the Internet.

    Why Americans are fascinated with riches is beyond both belief and logic. It is a Mental Fantasy that posses far too many, but only a trite-few actually achieve "their dream". But also because money - for some silly reason - also is a tribute to "success", which a great many Americans would like to enjoy but cannot.

    And what about the 30-to-40% who are at the bottom of the Income Pie? They are forgot. Nobody mentions them anymore - not even the Democrats. As if they are the price we have to pay to run a country, then "Oh, what the hell! That's life!"

    Of course, that need not be "life for them", but it is the option we choose if we do not have the means to educate them out of poverty. And yes, that should be a prime objective of any government on earth!

    I've said the following a thousand times on this forum: Manufacturing has hightailed it from the US to lesser-cost countries. What's left are the Services industries and these require generally some post-secondary schooling. Perhaps to learn a trade but must certainly to get a degree that is a necessity for the higher paying jobs.

    My Point?:
    *I sent my kids to university here in France for $1500 (in Euros and about the same amount in dollars) a year. In the US, the average state university degree costs around $26K a year! Almost then times as much!
    *And those at or below the Poverty Threshold in the US ($25K income for a family of four) clearly cannot afford to send their kids to university. So, they remain poor - at or just above the Poverty Threshold ($25K) to as much as, say, $50K/$60K annually.
    *So, I ask myself: What is better for America? Pouring one helluva-lotta funding into the DoD, or sending our kids to university at a far, far lesser cost. Let's do that for a decade and the answer will be come self-apparent especially at the bottom of the Income Range ...
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suggest that you listen to other people's responses to your points in other threads. Because you seem to just keep ignoring them and repeatedly start new threads rehashing your same points.

    You've brought up many points. Am I supposed to waste my time responding to all those points when apparently you will just ignore them and start countless more threads repeating the same thing?

    I wonder if the US can really afford to be wasting money on more education now. Especially when that specific education is not going to provide an overall economic benefit.

    Unfortunately the Progressive wing of the Democrat Party has a spending problem. It's not merely a matter of just taxes on the rich; there is a spending problem regardless.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, I don't think trying to send everyone to university is anywhere close to a realistic solution to solving most of the problem. Neither is merely handing out welfare (throwing out breadcrumbs) anywhere close to an ideal solution either.

    Raising the minimum wage might be somewhat helpful, but even that is not going to really make this segment of society more prosperous. There is simply no realistic way to be able to raise the minimum wage to a point that would really provide incomes high enough to make the problem go away. It is, ultimately, somewhat of just a band-aid.
    I don't think any truly good solutions are seriously being discussed.
     
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    How is getting more people a college degree going to bring manufacturing back to America?
     
  5. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Neither did I say that above!

    Trying to send people to university is simply providing post-secondary education (which is work-training, 2 and 4 year diplomas, etc.)

    As I never tire of saying - the choice is dead simple. We play "War Games" whilst most of the world is at peace. (And Uncle Sam got his ass kicked in Afghanistan) Which spurs futher the question, "Should we be spending all that effing-moulah on the DoD?

    How is an investment in the DoD in a time of relative-peace more important that post-secondary training/education of our kids?

    Huh? How ... ?


    Oh, but there is. Your thinking is from the 1990s when PLENTY of people were working in Manufacturing.

    And, apparently, you refuse to realize that only 10/15% of Americans are employed in Manufacturing today. So, what's the option? Further education of our kids and at a much, much cheaper cost - financed by the Fed just like the DoD!. The larger percentage of Services Industry jobs require either training or a post-secondary educational degree.

    So, let's make those degrees very, very inexpensive to undertake and graduate..


    Wakey, wakey Uncle Sam.That's what they are doing throughout Europe today ... !
     

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