They Cheated Like Hell

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  1. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    There were no indictments and convictions for Russian collusion or colluding with the Russian government to affect our 2016 election. on the Trump team..
    Some Russians were charged but when just one challenged in court the US folded like a cheap suit and dismissed it.. It seems the touchy subject of "discovery" the Government did not want to go down that road.. they did not expect those fella's to ever show up but boy did the Gov. ever get a surprise..

    Oh wait... there was one indicted when a Clinton lawyer lied to the FBI about Russian collusion, but heck that was last week.... old news now...
     
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    The MSM conveniently left that chart out.
    It looks like mail in ballots were ballot harvested, filled out, then sent in to be counted.
    For example you move from Yuma to Phoenix. Your ballot is intercepted (harvested) in Yuma, you get to Phoenix and request a new ballot or vote in person. Ballot harvesters vote your ballot, and you voted conditional.
    That is a double vote even if you only voted once. So that is plus one democrat, minus one republican vote, for a spread change of two.
    That chart shows exactly how ballot harvesting works.
     
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    *facepalm* ... I have a hard time at my age dealing with people in denial ... okay Elmo? ...
     
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    Interesting, and yet of the 60 something cases brought before the courts by either Trump or his surrogates, no such evidence has been produced and accepted or confirmed or validated by any judge, including those appointed by republicans and Trump, himself.

    So, either

    1. all left and right wing judges are colluding in a massive conspiracy against Trump, or
    2. all the attorneys are incompetent for not bringing forth such evidence, or
    3. no such evidence exists.

    Occam's razor points directly to #3.
     
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    The ball is in your court... ""There were no indictments and convictions for Russian collusion or colluding with the Russian government to affect our 2016 election. on the Trump team.."" is undisputable... Please provide proof otherwise
     
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    semantics ... can you be any more dishonest? ...

    https://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-pleas/
     
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    They actually investigate when Republicans do it. Not a good idea.
    What I think, and this will be difficult, is that it isn't enough to vote for POTUS and think your job is done. People have to get very active at the local level. It is at this level that people are trying to get your kids to be Marxists, sterilize themselves and surgically mutilate themselves (trans genderism for healthy kids) where illegal aliens are covered for, whacky judges put into positions of power, where election processes are formed, etc.
     
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    still playing semantics??? ... did you read the article? ... why all the lying from Trump's inner circle during the investigation? ...

    open your ****ing eyes man ...
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    There was NO ONE indicted and charged with colluding with the Russian government to affect our 2016 presidential election, by Mueller or anyone one else
     
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    WHO IN THE HELL IS THE "THEY" YOU ARE RANTING ABOUT????? THE GOP CONTROLS ALL 3 BRANCHES OF ARIZONA GOVERNMENT.
     
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    Just like they got capone on tax evasion.
     
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    Says you. But no legit newsworthy source.
     
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    Name one. 911 an insided job? WE really didn't land on the moon?
     
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    LOL. An opinion piece. Yours no doubt.
     
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    It was Demcorats who tried to pass laws giving more funding for election audits. The Republicans blocked it. McConnell seems to really want Republican cheating kept hidden.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/454742-mcconnell-blocks-two-election-security-bills

    What, you mean your party failed to tell you that? Your party apparently fails to tell you a lot of things. Why do you think that is?
     
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    Often times those that cry the loudest about an issue are the one's committing the issue.

    So, the R's cry loud about voter fraud and halt election security funding so they can cheat even more than they do. Most of those that were counted as fraud last election were votes for the 2X impeached incumbent. And he lost.
     
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    Cons are grasping at straws and deflecting now that the audit didn't go there way. What happened to the fake ballots and kinetic audits? Any results on examination of the folds in the ballot?

    Cons are now focusing their strength on casting a dark cloud on military voting while on duty and college students voting while away from home.
     
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    Obama, Hillary, and Biden with the government agencies colluded in a coup to overthrow a duly elected president. All documented ....
     
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    "looks like" = you don't know that for a fact. Also, you have no facts at all to back that up.

    Again, your scenario is absolutely impossible, because a person in AZ can request more than one ballot, can also be registered up to 3 times, but those things are all assigned THE SAME number to that very person so that once the person has voted once, anything else would have been flagged, for instance, another ballot used by someone else that was assigned to the voter in question. So, no, ballot harvesting could not be used for this purpose.

    You do realize that you are actually proving that the accounting system in AZ, as in most all states, actually works, right?
     
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    A variation one #1 is correct.

    Occam's Razor applied to the situation would be something like this: There are hundreds of witness affidavits on file, including statistical analysis of results, showing gross irregularities in voting results in many jurisdictions BECAUSE there were gross irregularities in the election of 2020.
     
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    Since the evidence shows those affidavits were irrelevant at best, nonsense often, and occassionally just outright fabrications, the Razor says that theory is wrong. Remember, Occam's Razor requires that the evidence be consistent with the facts. The election fraud theory isn't, so it's wrong, no matter how simple it is.
     
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    Affidavits serve only to corroborate evidence.

    By themselves, they are not evidence, only opinions.

    Every election has irregularities, and, as such, they are not evidence of Trump's allegation of 'Democrats stole the election'.

    As for #1, you'll have to provide evidence of that contention, because thus far, I have yet to see it.
     
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    The scurrilous, self-serving lies that demean our democracy have been exposed in Arizona. Next, it's Georgia's opportunity to confirm its integrity against the whining of the Cry Baby Loser.

    The Loser's persisting in his lies casts him as a pantload for cult and non-cult Republicans running in '22.


    Supporters of Republican Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp are fighting back against Trump and their own party leaders, angered by a rally last month in which the former president again attacked the state's chief executive.

    Kemp's proponents warn that a total embrace of Trump, his false claims about election fraud and his vendetta against the governor for not trying to overturn Trump's loss in Georgia last year could ruin Republican chances in 2022 in the narrowly divided state.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...er-trump-rally/ar-AAPauZw?ocid=BingNewsSearch

     

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