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Australia records 10 times more deaths following Covid shots.....

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A grim warning from Israel: Vaccination blunts, but does not defeat Delta


    https://www.science.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta
     
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    And the truth never reach's those that refuse to see the truth, have a lovely day :)
     
    ButterBalls, Sep 30, 2021
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    eschaff, Sep 30, 2021
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    Perhaps unlike you, sometimes I am quite good at connecting dots. Not as good as Reiner Fuellmich and David Martin perhaps, but not too bad.

    Also perhaps unlike you, I recognize the wisdom of James Madison's observation that "in truth, all men holding power OUGHT to be mistrusted". More, I learned as a young man that believing what known liars say is foolish and will lead to problems down the road.

    I too am a layman, but was exposed to the Hippocratic Oath and many other aspects of medicine and pharmacy as a young man. Then I ended up in the Medical Service Corps of the US Army for a few years.

    Anecdotally, I am now up to 7 friends who've died suddenly after taking the shots, anywhere from 4 hours afterward to 4 months afterward, sudden deaths. Plus, I try to keep perspective and look at the Big Picture.

    That shows data from around the world indicating clearly that more shots in any given population is followed soon by more infections. Some humans are good singers, some are not. Some have suspicious minds, some don't. Some are gullible, some are not. :angel:
     
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    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/global-research/

    https://www.sciencealert.com/scient...telligence-and-believing-philosophical-quotes

     
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    So base your belief on, MORE LIKELY, or in other words weatherman predictions, I see ;)
     
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    If a mistrust of the industry has anything to do with an interpretation of information suggesting the vaccines are the cause of deaths, then it is bias and not facts that drive that opinion. Again, when you can prove the deaths are the result of the vaccines, I'll reconsider my opinions.
     
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    4 months isn't sudden
     
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    Thank you, again the Big Picture.

    I forgot to mention that in my life I have participated in various scams. Harmless scams, but scams nonetheless.

    Just as it takes a thief to catch a thief, perhaps it also takes a scammer to see a scam?

    From the provenance of the CARES Act to Fauci's perjury before Congress to many other unpleasant details including US Patent Office records and widespread blatant censorship of whistleblowers, and the Event 201, this is a scam.

    Pfizer's record of pleading guilty to criminal fraud rather sets the tone IMO. The difference between informed opinions and the opposite should also be considered.

    Plandemic or Scamdemic. Both are accurate.
     
    Eleuthera, Sep 30, 2021
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    But this is your opinion. As long as we're clear about that, all is good. IMO, I see nothing there that would change my mind.
     
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    You sound very much like one of my brothers. Like him, it's likely your mind will NEVER be changed. The reasons for that are personal, and none of my business. Cognitive dissonance is part of the human condition.

    :peace:
     
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    Speaking of brothers, I have one who insists his phone and all his online accounts are being monitored, and that satellites keep track of where he goes. He tells me I'm naive to believe the same isn't happening to me.

    But yes, as long as there is no actual proof of the cause of those deaths, the dissonance remains.
     
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    Ok. So what. Asymptomatic infections may be up among the vaccinated. Is that a problem? Yes for the UN-vaccinated because the purpose of vaccination is to neutralize the virus after an infection, not to prevent an infection. The vaccine is doing the job it's intended to do. If everyone is vaccinated, COVID becomes the common cold and we can live with that.
     
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    Not surprised you ignore the elephant in the room.
     
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    Adfundum, Sep 30, 2021
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    Australia is pure Clown World status now.



    Seriously? 95% of the Hospitalized has had either 2 or 1 shot, but mostly 2!!!!

    The vaccines don't work to deliver herd immunity. Only the antibodies deliver that and we are delaying that from happening with these weak ass vaccines going in arms that don't need it.
     
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    The state of Florida now has the 41st highest covid rate in the country. Cases are down 57% in the past 14 days without a mask mandate or vaccine mandates. Just sharing the data since most in the media won’t.
     
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    Even though low you can’t die of the vaccine if you don’t take it.
     
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    IF vaccines kill people, which I haven't seen any scientific data for, the odds are one in the millions, maybe tens of millions. In this country you have about a one in five hundred chance overall of dying from Covid. If you're vaccinated you reduce that chance by a factor of ten. The vaccine is the better bet.
     
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    You're ignoring the cost it took to get there, and surges have been regional. It may not be over yet for Florida.
     
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    Definitely on the wane. Vaccines, masks, and distancing haven’t stopped any spikes even in the most vaccinated countries.
     
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    Avoid the Johnson and Johnson and the Astra Zeneca vaccines.
    The Pfizer does not have the clotting problems.
     
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    Get sh*t-faced drunk and run down a pedestrian...then try to convince a judge the booze ya guzzled had NOTHING to do with it. :rolleyes:
     
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