British army deployed to deliver fuel

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/british-army-deployed-to-deliver-fuel-as-u-k-gas-stations-run-on-empty

It's not just lack of people driving trucks to deliver fuel. They also do not have the drivers to supply supermarkets. They don't have the people to pick the fruit in the fields. They already know they can't send the Turkeys in time to the butchers to have their feast at Christmas.


Boris J. and it's UK failed their Brexit strategy.
What do you think?

 

Sounds like the situation in the UK is very similar to the situation in the US.

The new governor of New Yawk has proposed having national guard troops replace the healthcare workers who have quit over the clot shot mandate.

Somewhere in this country they are have the national guard drive school busses because of the clot shot mandate.

 

They'd better get their act together or they are going to have chaos in the streets.

 

Coming to America soon

 

I see where you think there is a similarity, but I do not agree.
The UK, with it's Brexit, axed the jobs of low wages fellow EU citizens.
They are now short 60.000 truck drivers.
70.000 seasonable workers are needed on farms, only 11% are from the UK


So gas stations, stores and super markets are running out of things to sell, while crops and fruit rot away in the fields.

https://www.diverse-employment.co.uk/hgv-driver-jobs-driver-recruitment-post-brexit
https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/business/2021/06/23/brexit-causes-shortage-of-farm-labourers/
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-58410363


I have yet to hear that such own inflicted policies have such an impact in the US by firing some staff in the hospitals.
It's not as if entire hospital wings are being closed because they let the unvaxxed go.

 

Your link doesn’t work. I get the 404 message. But going off of your post I’m not sure how you can relate this situation to brexit.

 

Brexit taking its toll.

Maybe they'll have the army deliver turkeys too.

You got military delivering fuel in your State? Where do you live?

 

Link does not work for me either but I did hear this reason on the news, I can't remember which station, but this explains it:
"The UK, with it's Brexit, axed the jobs of low wages fellow EU citizens.
They are now short 60.000 truck drivers.
70.000 seasonable workers are needed on farms, only 11% are from the UK"

 

I guess I would have to read an article cause as far as I knew the brexit deal didn’t require anyone to be fired.

 

I guess they axed their own webpage... found an other one.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...dby-panic-buying-leaves-petrol-pumps-n1280216

Uhhh.. well maybe you're not aware of it. But within the EU, the EU citizens and goods can travel across borders without taxes or visas. The UK relied on +100,000 people from other EU countries to do the trucking and seasonable farm jobs = low wage jobs. (You can no doubt expand that list with people working in shoe stores and McDonnalds etc.). I linked in post 5 the numbers.

Since the UK left the EU, means no EU citizen can just enter the UK and do a low wage job. And subsequently the UK is stuck with 100,000's jobs nobody wants to do, making the army step in to start trucking around gas to gas stations. And yes, the disappearing of 60,000 truck drivers is directly related to Brexit. My new link even claims that there is a shortage of 100,000 truck drivers.

 

I think you need to work on your propaganda and disinformation tactics.

This has nothing to do with Brexit.

The UK has issued a series of mandated regulations regarding truck drivers stemming from STUPID-19.

Very obviously, a significant number of truckers in the UK have no desire to play the stupid game and are seeking employment elsewhere.

Also, quite obviously, those truckers who are willing to play the stupid game are being frustrated by the UK's over-reaching bureaucracy and are not able to meet the new stringent requirements in a timely manner.

I challenge you to cite the specific article and present evidence to support your claim.

Seeing how you don't even know what a Sponsor License is, because you've never lived or worked in the UK, I doubt we'll see anything from you.

What? Chaos in Britain? Marlborough and Wellington would be spinning in their graves.

It's not related to BREXIT unless you think BREXIT applies to the US because the US is also experiencing a trucker shortage.

Truck driver shortage 'is about as bad as I've ever seen'
https://news.yahoo.com › us-xpress-ceo-driver-shortage-tr...
Eric Fuller, the CEO of U.S. Xpress (USX), said that his company has doled out 30% to 35% in total pay increases over the last 12 months — but ...

DEAD THREAD CALL 911 IMMEDIATELY

 

New link:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...dby-panic-buying-leaves-petrol-pumps-n1280216

@joe: EU citizens are allowed to work anywhere in the EU without a visa. And so truck drivers and seasonable workers for farms from mostly poor Eastern European countries went to the UK to work. Them people did not get fired when the UK left the EU, they simply are no longer welcome to come over and work... leaving the UK with the problem that they don't have the manpower to supply their own gas stations, stores and super markets / seasonable workforce to haul in what was planted on farms. The problem has become so large that the government ordered the army to supply the gas stations.

 

Maybe not 100%, but it does play a role in it. And of course rest of EU are quick to blame it on Brexit because it gives them the opportunity to say "I told you so". As for potential drives outside of UK, they'll rather work in EU where they dont have to deal with work permits which they need in UK.

"Such problems have continued as the pandemic has eased, however, revealing the challenges of Brexit and the U.K.’s new trading relationship with the EU. Experts and industry leaders say they had warned the government of the consequences of Brexit’s impact on the country’s workforce, with several key industries reliant on European workers, such as agriculture, health care and haulage. Not being able to attract seasonal staff is a particular concern for farmers who say they are facing situations where crops cannot be harvested or livestock processed due to a lack of experienced workers.

The rest of Europe is watching the U.K.’s supply chain issues and workforce shortfalls with interest, particularly given the recent bitter divorce between the U.K. and EU following Brexit."

The U.K. desperately needs European truck drivers to fix its fuel crisis, but they’re not coming
https://fortune.com/2021/10/05/uk-hgv-truck-driver-shortage-eu/
The U.K. government’s urgent appeal for European tanker drivers to come and help alleviate the country’s fuel crisis has largely fallen on deaf ears. A mere 27 (or 127, according to Prime Minister Boris Johnson) drivers have applied for the temporary work visas that were on offer. The government was hoping for 300, and that’s before it tries to attract another 4,700 truck drivers to save the holiday season.

 

You say that, while I sourced in post 5 that the UK had 60,000 non UK truck drivers before Brexit but other EU citizens.
And of the seasonable workforce for farms ,70,000 strong, only 11% was a UK citizen. The other 89% were other EU citizens.

linked in post 5

 

Yes, they DO have a problem adjusting to unintended consequences of Brexit. EU is a large market and truck drivers are in high demand there too, so it doesn't make sense anyone would want to drive in UK and have to go through the work permit hassle. UK will have to pay more to attract drivers and that cost will be passed to the consumers.

 

Interesting. I wonder if their truckers make less money than the ones here. Maybe they’ll have to increase wages

 

Gosh, if they lack workers and the citizens of the UK won't step up, perhaps the need more immigrants.................................

 

There's always hell to pay when ill-thought out "chickens" come home to roost, stay tuned for when OURS begin arriving....

 

You failed to cite any article from The Withdrawal Agreement to support your claim. Nobody cares what some left-wingers have to say.

BREXIT does not prevent persons from EU member-States from working in the UK.

The driver shortage has nothing to do with BREXIT.

There is a driver shortage, but as Channel 4 and others have reported, it's because 1,000s of foreign workers fled home due to STUPID-19, and because 1,000s of workers retired because of STUPID-19, and because the lock-downs did what?

Yeah, the lock-downs prevented any new drivers from being trained, because the schools were all closed, and even when they were open, class sizes were limited, and if someone actually happened to complete the driver training course, good luck filing your documents and getting your permits from the government, whose offices were closed, or understaffed, and who are still trying to process all the documents and permits from drivers who completed the course before the lock-downs started.

I won't even get into how much being a lorry driver sucks in the UK.

You couldn't pay American truck drivers to go drive in the UK, even though the Pound Sterling is worth more than the Dollar and so they'd make more money.

Have you ever seen a European truck? They're not like ours. We got the big wheels that chew up and damage the roads, and when they ain't doing that, they're blowing out and leaving road debris so you wreck or someone kicks it up on your car and leaves a big dent or cracks your windshield. EU trucks have small tires. You can live in an American truck cab, but not an EU truck cab. And in the US, there are 24 hour truck stops where you can eat, shower and even sleep. But not in the UK. And then for the UK, there's the hour's worth of paperwork you gotta do just for the government.

Since you can't seem to find The Withdrawal Agreement, here it is:

https://ec.europa.eu/info/strategy/...-united-kingdom/eu-uk-withdrawal-agreement_en

 

Make Britain Great Again

 

STUPID-19 plays a much bigger role. To the extent that BREXIT might play a role, well, sure, some immigrants to the UK are upset that they can no longer bring everyone they ever knew in their entire lives to the UK.

In the US, lawful permanent residents -- aka "Greencard Holders" -- are allowed to bring their unmarried minor children to the US.

In the UK, under EU Treaty, you can bring all of your children regardless of their age or marital status, plus your mother, your father, your sister, your brother, the cat, the dog, the rat, the frog, and you can bring not only your parents, because if your parents are divorced you can bring the new spouses of your parents, and your nieces and nephews and cousins and grandparents and great-grandparents and aunts an uncles and great-aunts/uncles, or effectively, anyone related to you by blood or marriage, and basically, no questions asked.

You can see where some people might frown on that.

No doubt, but every State on Earth is experience labor issues for a variety of reason all related to STUPID-19.

One thing we saw during the so-called Great Recession was the huge spike in college enrollment.

People went to college to either get a degree, get a better degree, add to their degree, if not to get a better paying job than to get a job that was recession-proof.

Same thing happened here during STUPID-19, since every university went "on-line."

They already spent the money, so those are sunk costs to be sure, but opportunity costs still come into play. If you'll earn more than what you're spending on college, then it's stupid to quit college and jump back into the work-force.

 

The Brexiteers made their bed. Now they can lie in it.

 

These are not unintended consequences. They left the EU to have these consequences and not have these foreigners around.
They also don't have them missing 60,000 people truck drivers in the UK.
The UK also does not have the around 60,000 people who previously did seasonable labor, and can't get them from the EU.
There are probably a lot more other different occupations where low wage Eastern Europeans are missing by the 10,000's.

 

No, that is not correct.

Employment of EU nationals in the U.K. in 2021 and beyond
https://www.safeguardglobal.com/resources/blog/eu-citizens-brexit-work-in-uk
Because of Brexit, the free movement rights enjoyed by EU nationals in the U.K. ends on January 1, 2021.

Effectively, EU citizens entering the U.K. in 2021 will face the same visa application process and fees as non-European migrants have. The U.K. government has put in place a points-based system to gain permission to work in the U.K. under two categories:

• A skilled worker visa for people with a job offer
• A highly skilled work visa for people without a job offer, potentially allowing for self-employment

Once applicants meet the basic criteria of a job offer from an approved sponsor, as well as English language ability, there is a range of “tradeable” criteria to achieve the required score of 70 points to be eligible for a U.K. visa. These include:

• Salary level (higher salary levels receive more points)
• Jobs in a “shortage” category
• Higher levels of education (such as a doctorate degree)

The bottom line? If you want to hire EU nationals to work in the U.K. in 2021, there will be a lot more paperwork, time and cost.

 

Increase wages?? You think they come back when they increase wages?