The New Climate Reality

You side has been predicting "NEW ICE AGE TOMORROW!" nonstop for over 40 years now. It never happens. The strong warming just goes on and on.

You've all been as wrong as it's possible to be. Why should anyone think you're less wrong now?

And in 5 years, when it's still been warming strongly, will you admit that your predictions of a frozen armageddon were misplaced, and that you shouldn't have put your faith in an icy doomsday cult?

Let's put it another way. How many more years of warming will it take for you to admit you were wrong? Give us a number, so we can check back with you then.

 

We prefer the term "skeptic." Your use of "denialist" marks you as a mere propagandist.
As for the cooling, it's a bit more sophisticated than you seem to think and has been under way since 2016. Here's some background.
Solar Cycle 25 Has Started
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2005. The Sun has entered a new regime of activity with the New Cold Period. ... shift down in the Sun’s magnetic flux into the New Cold Period. The breakover was most probably in 2005 when
Henry says "The Cold Period is coming." ... David A's Figure 7 indicates the Cold Period began around 2005-'06

 

Unsourced, unlinked, ignored.

 

Cooling has been under way since 2016. I'm not the one for whom the clock is ticking.

 

The only thing "new" about climate is the hype.
“Climate Emergency” – Nothing But Politics And Propaganda Unsupported By Scientific Data
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The “climate emergency” claim hyped by Scientific American and other political climate alarmist entities is based on the completely fallacious statement that “the planet is heating up way to fast” with that flawed claim representing nothing…

 

It's not... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctica_cooling_controversy

Michael Crichton, in his 2004 novel State of Fear, asserted that cooling observed in the interior of Antarctica shows the lack of reliability of the models used for global warming predictions, and thus of climate theory in general. This novel has a docudrama plot based upon the idea that there is a deliberately alarmist conspiracy behind global warming activism. As presented in page 193 of the novel: "The data show that one relatively small area called the Antarctic Peninsula is melting and calving huge icebergs. That's what gets reported year after year. But the continent as a whole is getting colder, and the ice is getting thicker."[4] Other sources then picked up the argument,[2][3][6] labeling it the "Antarctic Cooling Controversy", despite the fact that the small and variable observed trends are broadly consistent with the small magnitude of model-predicted temperature trends for Antarctica.

Crichton footnoted his assertion of Antarctic cooling as originating from the paper Doran et al., 2002,[19] although the paper referenced did not directly state that their measurements was evidence against global warming. The work stated:[19][20] "Although previous reports suggest slight recent continental warming our spatial analysis of Antarctic meteorological data demonstrates a net cooling on the Antarctic continent between 1966 and 2000, particularly during summer and autumn. The McMurdo Dry Valleys have cooled by 0.7 °C per decade between 1986 and 2000, with similar pronounced seasonal trends.... Continental Antarctic cooling, especially the seasonality of cooling, poses challenges to models of climate and ecosystem change.

In response to Crichton, the lead author of the research paper, Peter Doran, published a statement in The New York Times[6] stating, "... our results have been misused as 'evidence' against global warming by Michael Crichton in his novel State of Fear.... Our study did find that 58 percent of Antarctica cooled from 1966 to 2000. But during that period, the rest of the continent was warming. And climate models created since our paper was published have suggested a link between the lack of significant warming in Antarctica and the ozone hole over that continent. These models, conspicuously missing from the climate change denial literature, suggest that as the ozone hole heals — thanks to worldwide bans on ozone-destroying chemicals — all of Antarctica is likely to warm with the rest of the planet. An inconvenient truth?" He also emphasized the need for more stations in the Antarctic continent in order to obtain more robust result

 

The correct term is climate change denialists.
And how about you go show/link the global temperatures since 2005/2006 that show it's getting cooler. lol

 

Your Wikipedia citation is outdated and superseded by newer research, which I posted.

 

Getting cooler since 2016. Latency in a complex system not surprising.

 

It's not. I sourced that the data is misused. We punched a hole through the ozon with chemicals making it cooler there. And than we fixed it.
And it's known that Ozon traps heat. So it's pure logic it's getting warmer again.

 

please source the average global temperatures since 2006... or 2016, whatever.
Just post them and let us look if indeed the temperature is dropping.

 

Sorry, but all my citations are more recent than all of yours. You're not keeping up.

 

Several graphs in the link.
All 5 Global Temperature Measurement Systems Reject NOAA’s July 2021 “hottest month ever” Alarmist Hype
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sea global surface temperature monthly anomaly data are available for each of the 5 major global temperature ... The UAH, RSS, GISS and HadCRUT global temperature monthly anomaly measurement systems showed
monthly 2021 global temperature anomaly is significantly below every monthly 2020 global temperature anomaly

 

IPCC AR6: Breaking the hegemony of global climate models
Who is aware that the IPCC publishes based not on actual data but based on models?

Models contain a huge IF factor. Actual real time data measures the past. It does not measure the future. That is why the flawed model data is used.

https://judithcurry.com/2021/10/06/...hegemony-of-global-climate-models/#more-27876

 

It matters little what folks believe. The fact is that the changes that are taking place will affect all of us. How we interpret them will probably be very individual.......... as agreement on any of this is not going to happen.......even if the science and observable evidence is obvious. Folks will believe what they want to believe. This might be the byproduct the world of misinformation we now live in..

 

Why do the Democrats shove some discredited concept down our throat when the truth is we are doing very well?

 

And they blame fires and droughts on "warming" when the truth is that a warmer earth is a wetter earth.

And they claim islands right near the Pacific Ring of Fire are "sinking" because of "rising seas" while nothing else is sinking....

 

I suppose that is the point: the alleged changes are not taking place.

 

who is doing very well?? The places that have been flooded ? , the peple who have died during the heatwave?? In places where the climate is usually temperate? the forests that are being destroyed by more intense and frequent fires?? These events themselves are not new.......but are more extreme now. That is the visible change......a symptom of a more massive change.

If folks want to believe that no changes are taking place........fine. They can "believe" whatever they want.

 

No. Those events are neither more extreme nor more frequent.

 

I want to tip you off.
Places started getting flooded when men built on property likely to get flooded.
Climate was not then blamed yet to a Democrat this is brand new to them.
The world loses more humans due to cold than due to heat. This is not new either.

Control lightning and you will cut down on forest fires. Humans litter their land with debris and refuse to maintain property properly.
The Democrats preach your dogma. For your sake, quit listening to them. They have no solutions anyway.

 

What are the solutions from your point of view??

 

About what?

First ensure that the Feds keep their hands off of your life.

 

The first solution is finding truth.

Co2 does nothing.

The fires are because too many humans are consuming too much fresh water from nature.

The solutions are desalination of ocean water and a robust population control effort....

 

So you think the climate issue is just "situationormal"??

OK.