Biden received a mandate that he must follow

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Pardon. Me but the mayo study is wrong the Israeli study is correct and works with a far better data set I to. There is no information to suggest that reinfection rates for people who already had covid and don't have compromised have a reinfection rate even remotely close to that of people who had only the vaccine. Dude it is a world oil market you can't truncate US supplies and not effect the price world wide.
     
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  2. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh... I have a better way to defend myself against a rapist: an ugly face!
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good one! No everyone has that advantage. Item number one on your list is already a failure as ones right to bodily autonomy is not a genuine concern for this admin.

    Item 2. Using the same examples, there is no genuine concern for protecting rights. If that same voter values their second amendment rights or their right not to consume a pharm product, this is another pre-failed item on your list. Individual rights are not a genuine concern for this admin.
     
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    I said more than any other president. Not all.

    I take it you rarely have arguments?
     
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  5. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    If you are looking for an excuse to spew anti-vaxxer propaganda, there are many threads to do that. Not this one. I recommend the conspiracy forum.
     
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    If people already agreed with you then the bully pulpit wouldn't have to be used in the first place
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope, just showing that your list is BS one item at a time. Next up is #3.Fixing health care.

    The term "fixing" is misleading since it means making sure his pharma-friends enjoy record profits while Americans grow sicker than ever. This admin has no genuine concern for public health. (Not that any admin did) Americans continue to grow fatter and sicker making this another pre-failed item on your list.
     
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    You remind me of a guy on another forum whose investments were laddered bonds. He left a lot of money on the table.

    Uneducated people are the easiest to cheat.
     
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    Your sources are...?
     
  10. Injeun

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    I disagree, and I've already explained why, at least as far as it is my opinion.
     
  11. btthegreat

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    Really, these guys don't run in the general election anymore? I had this weird sense that Dems ended up running against republicans in a general election, and if those views of their were not popular with independents and republicans, they might have problems getting
    huh. that dem has to run in a gen election. those policies had better be popular beyond a dem party base especially in purple and red states.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    The failures are due to Democrats feuding in Congress. There's no other excuse for Dems not getting their agenda passed and placed on Biden's desk.

    If you don't like the loss of the Democrat platform why don't you get some progressive candidates to primary those moderate Democrats in Congress who are sitting on their hands?
     
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    Just because you may be firmly committed to your opinion or confident of your opinion doesn't mean that arguments presented by folks here don't have impact on your points, if not for you then likely there will be others who may find the discussion tends to lose points in your favor given others' points.

    Your definition of a mandate and as the reason a President is elected is because of his or her agenda is well open to debate. Especially when lots and lots of folks find themselves simply voting for what they consider to be the lesser of two bad choices.

    Here is some discussion about Presidential mandates:

    Presidential Mandates Aren’t Real, But Congress Sometimes Acts As If They Are

     
  15. Golem

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    I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. The bully pulpit is Biden's weapon against any lawmakers who are wavering in their support for his agenda.
     
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    I don't give a crap how much they make, so long as the cost of medicines come down.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't know how popular they are with independents and republicans. I can tell you they are VERY popular with Democrats. And without the vote of Democrats, they are gone.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Biden is the only one who has the power to make that happen. He has the power... Let's see if he also has the leadership skills to know how to use it. Personally, I think he does. But if he doesn't, it would be HIS failure.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    No! I have explained this several times. You're not paying attention, I'm afraid. He has mandate AND he was elected with an agenda, I outlined on the OP, which he must fulfill. They are two things that are interrelated, but not interdependent.
     
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    Basically your definition of a "mandate" is that "as long as they won even if barely"
     
  21. dagosa

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    yup…let me add..
    His only other mandates are to those who elected him. They want universal healthcare and a gov that protects and supports the hard working stiffs who make capitalism and the free market work. They want a world class infrastructure and NOT a healthcare system that is the worse in the free world.
     
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    Hardly anyone paid any attention to what he said he would do. His only mandate was not to be Trump. Not being Trump is his sole success. Everything else he has tried to do has been disastrous.
     
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    No. He's a gasbag and a fraud.
     
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    As you wish. We sailed through fine and stupid, greedy people lost their shirts.
     
  25. btthegreat

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    last time I looked most republicans78% said that Biden did not win enough votes to legitimately win the election https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/15/politics/big-lie-republican-belief-trump/index.html Now if that is true, then Trump completly controls that party and Biden simply cannot get any republican votes in the Senate for his program unless McConnell and Trump cooperate. The Biden Honeymoon is canceled and the 'mandate' you keep referring to, was doomed before Biden took his oath! Neither of them give a rats ass how popular this platform is with the Democratic base that voted for it at the convention.
    Well the reason we have general elections, is so that one party's ideas, no matter how popular they are within one political sect, will be tested outside those boundaries. The fact is that there are Dems voted in from more conservative states, that will not comfortably wear that democratic party platform that Biden pushed through at his convention because his unadulterated vision is a political poison pill in their districts. The good senator from West Virginia is one of them. If Biden puts him in a box with his 'bully pulpit' , his escape route is to change his party affiliation and turn the Senate majority party into a Senate minority party.
     
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