'Catastrophic' California oil spill kills fish, damages wetlands

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  1. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    So sorry to see this. So many animals will be impacted. Will drilling off the coast of Southern California be banned:
     
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    It sucks. I live in Huntington Beach. We had the Pacific Air Show this weekend. I was down on the beach on Saturday with my son and his friend. It was amazing to see the Blue Angels up close. Sunday, my wife and I were going to go, but overnight, the oil came in and they totally cancelled the show. They are now talking about having beaches from Huntington to Laguna closed for weeks to months. That won't sit well with the local watermen. This is a big season of Lobsters, spear fishing, and free diving (I free dive).... not to mention all the surfing. I will be violating any forced plan to keep us out of the water. There are some "secret" spots that any authorities have a hard time getting to that I know will be populated with locals like me. We will be surfing.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As much as this sucks, progress comes with bigger and bigger accidents. Cars gave us car crashes, planes gave us plane crashes, windmills gave us sliced and diced birds, and oil gave us oil leaks.

    None of this is done on purpose, it's just the odds of anything being perfect 100% of the time are slim. The best we can do is prepare and then react when needed.
     
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    Don't want to seem insensitive, and I mean that! But this could have been avoided if oil reserves in country were used instead of under oceans.. Far less cleanup on dirt then spreading out over ocean water and beach's...

    A ray of sunshine though "An estimated 126,000 gallons, or 3,000 barrels" is pretty small compared to what the gulf coast experienced, Cali will have that scrubbed clean as a whistle in no time, nothing a couple thousand illegal Latino's can't handle ;)
     
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    They said the same about my beaches in the great Chevron spill in the gulf. It was way overblown and became a cash cow for fraud during and after the clean up. The state is still spending money from the settlement not here on the coast but throughout the state with lots of it in the northern counties which were not effected. I remember laying on the beach with friends and families in our swim suits and these groups of cleanup people with their white head to toe hooded suits and boots and gloves and respirators walking by looking for oil clumps to pickup in the 95 degree weather.
     
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    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.

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    You mean they STILL allow drilling off California? :eyepopping:
     
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    Surfers and golfers, nothing can keep them down...:D golf.png
     
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    We played once in a frost. I used an orange ball... and still lost it. Then again... I suck at golf.
     
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    I hope it was just an accident:
     
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    Given that two eco-fanatic academics have been identified as wildfire starters, it is not to be ruled out that the spill is a result of eco-terrorism.
     
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    Yes our new head of the Bureau of Land Management is an eco-terrorist.
     
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    It will take decades to clean up the mess and the beaches following this disaster.
     
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    I heard this morning on "America's First News with Gordon Deal" that the pipeline that has a ruptured section is a steel 'tube', 16-inches in diameter, completely encased in concrete, and almost entirely embedded in the ocean floor. That, if true, makes it highly unlikely that some passing ship, dragging its 'anchor', would have dislodged such a huge section of it, tearing it open and allowing all the oil to spew out. The official line seems to indicate this: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/05/california-pipeline-may-have-been-hooked-by-ships-anchor.html :roll:

    So... what's the real story...?

    Consider: the pipeline is 100-feet deep in the water. What kind of idiots on any ship would be unintentionally DRAGGING THE SHIP'S ANCHOR behind it in such deep water?!
     
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    Ships drag anchors as the current moves them about, but it may have just dropped one on top of it. Cargo ships have big anchors. There is a traffic jam of cargo ships waiting to offload in that area. Anyway, the whole thing is just a theory at this point. Other theories is that the process used to weld the pipes together has a history of failures at the joint so it may just be a good old fashioned leak.

    So far at least the damage to wildlife has been minimal.
     
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    One of the big container ships parked off our beaches, thanks to CV-19 slow down, caused the spill. They dragged their anchor across the oil pipeline, gouged it huge, and displaced it.
     
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    That theory will be correct. I live in HB. It's the only thing out here that would leave a gouge in a pipeline like that. In fact the pipeline was not just gouged, but dragged into a semi-circle.

    I am a surfer and free diver. We don't traditionally dive that area, you usually go down to Laguna or offshore Laguna as that is the best free diving, unless you want to go all the way to Catalina. There is nothing else in the waters around here that can do what happened. It was a cargo ship.
     
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    At least it's not leaking anymore:
     
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    Yup. Biden's Cargo Ship Snarl caused the oil spill.

    DOES ANYBODY IN THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING? Pete Buttigieg has been MIA.
    So "Buttigieg went from paid child leave for two months followed by lots of DNC-MSM appearances, while the supply chain went to hell. Keep that in mind as headlines fly such as this: White House: Cancel Christmas? “Forget malaise, and let’s start talking Grinch. With supply-chain issues still festering for months and inflation beginning to roar, retailers wonder whether they can provide the goods for the holiday season on which they rely for fiscal solvency. The White House offered its advice yesterday, which was. . . get used to disappointment.”"

    Never underestimate Joe's ability to screw things up.
     
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    Probably someone from a trump flotilla.
     
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    Neat story. I guess you missed the part where the Coast Guard said the damage could have been at least a year ago?
     
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    Yeah, I heard that story just this morning. Hell, they don't know for sure when the damage occurred: https://apnews.com/article/business...t-and-nature-e3b2976b1986e0f4f2908cedc18f2854

    Interesting to consider the possibilities for any would-be saboteurs and terrorists. They could send in divers, damage pipelines that are barely off-shore, and swim away undetected. If the pipelines in that area are only a hundred feet deep in the ocean, even amateur divers with off-the-shelf equipment could get to vulnerable spots fairly easily, and, very possibly, nobody would even know they'd been there....
     
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    The most likely answer is that one of these cargo ships, riding at anchor, caught this pipeline with an anchor and drug it quite a distance before it finally failed. Biden's massive screw up, Buttigieg's complete absense as this problem formed and was unaddressed as it built to uncontrollable are to blame.

    #BareShelvesBiden:

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