Mark Zuckerberg spent $419M on nonprofits ahead of 2020 election — and got out the Dem vote

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  1. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://nypost.com/2021/10/13/mark-...ad-of-2020-election-and-got-out-the-dem-vote/

    During the 2020 election, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg spent hundreds of millions of dollars to turn out likely Democratic voters. But this wasn’t traditional political spending. He funded a targeted, private takeover of government election operations by nominally nonpartisan — but demonstrably ideological — nonprofit organizations.


    Analysis conducted by our team demonstrates this money significantly increased Joe Biden’s vote margin in key swing states. In places like Georgia, where Biden won by 12,000 votes, and Arizona, where he won by 10,000, the spending likely put him over the top.


    This unprecedented merger of public election offices with private resources and personnel is an acute threat to our republic and should be the focus of electoral reform efforts moving forward.


    The 2020 election wasn’t stolen — it was likely bought by one of the world’s wealthiest and most powerful men pouring his money through legal loopholes.

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    Whenever anyone has asked me if the election was "stolen", my answer is, I don't know. There was no solid way to track votes due to a poor chain of custody. Maybe Biden won? It sucks not to be sure. I think Biden likely won.... but I'm not 70% sure.

    What I have maintained is that the election was "rigged". By that I mean the kind of money, bias, and influence levied by the MSM and Big Tech like Facebook. Note, that is just Facebook's contribution. How much from good old freakshow Jack?

    If this was happening in the Republicans favor, I would be just as tweaked about it. It's way too dangerous. They can easily take either party right over the edge, which they clearly have with the Democratic Party. It's Authoritarian. They've created Oligarchies that are untouchable.

    I am not one to just throw rocks. Here is the real solution and this applies to companies through in kind donations.


    28th Amendment

    Only U.S. Citizens of voting age may donate to political campaigns. The limit per year is $5,000 per citizen in total contributions. A citizen may not donate to any campaign outside of their geographic impact.

    Impact:
    • No: foreign countries or citizens, corporations, unions, special interest groups can contribute.
    • This includes all ballot measures.
    • Citizens cannot donate to any politician or measure outside of their residency.
    Regardless of party, we need to get this through our State Legislatures to save this nation from a completely locked up Oligarchy. Hell, it looks like it may be too late. You Democrats / Leftists that think you really want this type of money in politics? It will really blow up in your faces along with the rest of us sooner than later. It's national suicide to allow these power merchants to consolidate.









     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wait, Zuck is a Trump supporter, that’s what the left said last week. But Zuck has enough cash to buy every democrat politician in the country, and it looks like he’s doing it.
     
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    So Zuckerberg hired people to go door to door to help them with ballot curing and you guys think that is rigging the election. Interesting that just 10 years ago, the right was jumping for joy when SCOTUS in deciding Citizens United vs. FEC allowed private corporations to spend an unlimited amount of elections. Today, they want to introduce an amendment because a ruling they endeared is no longer going their way. Actions have consequences and you reap what you sow.
     
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    he donated to both the left and the right
     
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    How’s your amendment impact self funding billionaires?
     
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    Well...with a limit of 5k per citizen....I'd say the impact would be that they'd spend less money....at least directly.

    Unfortunately the OPs Amendment doesn't actually address what Zuckerberg actually did.....
     
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    Your proposed amendment would not have affected this spending, because this was not a contribution to a political campaign.
    These donations were aimed at increasing voter turnout. Increasing legitimate participation.

    Increasing turnout seems to benefit Democrats, which is why Republicans try to suppress turnout.
     
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    Great question actually. They too can only donate $5,000 to their cause. That's a hard limit. We need $$$ out of politics. Let's all consider the better things it can be spent on and the destruction of tons of corruption.
     
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    PAC's were created in an attempt to keep wealthy people from buying politicians. You are chasing your tail thinking you can control that thirst for power and influence among the elite. The closest you will come is to have public funding of elections with spending caps and relegate influencers to JV cheerleader status.
     
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    Because what Democrats want to do benefits more people whereas Republicans want to benefit billionaires, simple as that.
     
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    Correction, Zuckerturd hired people that went door to door and told people how to vote, then collected their ballots and delivered their ballots to drop boxes. If you do not see the problem with that then I can't help you.

    I'm sure that hard left 'ballot curers' delivered ballots for Trump...yeah right.
     
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    I can sign you up as agreeing Citizens United was a terrible decision then?
     
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    The supreme court ruled upon this a few years ago, if Zuckerberg isn't committing any crimes, you are going to have to deal with it.
     
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    How the second half of my post goes right over your head is amazing. How Leftists support this type of hyper-spend to affect elections is telling.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    100% - I have been saying it since the day they created that abomination of a ruling.

    Citizens United needs to be overturned.
     
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    The whole investigation by the NY Post is bunk. They say that a 23 of 25 large grants went to cities Biden won, but make no mention if that money was targeted towards republicans or democrats in those cities. If I remember correctly, the margin of victory was somewhat close, so of course it;s misleading to assume if Biden won that county, all of Zuckerberg's $$$ went to democrats which is what the NY Post is trying to do.

    Big cities have a larger population so typically require a larger budget than rural areas. Why is this shocking?
     
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    2nd time, the Supreme court already ruled on this. Hem and haw all you want. To refresh your memory, Bush Jr was Pres when this was ruled, Republicans loved it, due to the fact that Bush Jr lowered their taxes, now that some coroporations aren't buying into Trump's junk, it is no longer useful.

    I will bet a shiny new nickel, when politics cycles again and most corporations back Republicans will enjoy the large donations. :)
     

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