Which of the US-Presidents in this list would you call a bad President?

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Which of the US-Presidents in this list would you call a bad President?

  1. Nixon

    22 vote(s)
    53.7%
  2. Ford

    5 vote(s)
    12.2%
  3. Carter

    15 vote(s)
    36.6%
  4. George H. W. Bush

    8 vote(s)
    19.5%
  5. Clinton

    8 vote(s)
    19.5%
  6. George W. Bush

    19 vote(s)
    46.3%
  7. Obama

    17 vote(s)
    41.5%
  8. Trump

    22 vote(s)
    53.7%
  9. Biden

    19 vote(s)
    46.3%
  10. Reagan

    10 vote(s)
    24.4%
  11. somebody else

    6 vote(s)
    14.6%
  12. nobody

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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    There are more jobs than people out of work, something the American economy has never experienced before
    https://www.cnbc.com/.../there-are-more-jobs-than-people...

    Pay gains under Trump best since the Great Recession
    www.cnbc.com › 2018/01/31 › pay-gains-under-trump...

    Jan 31, 2018 - Workers looking for fatter paychecks had their best year in 2017 since before the financial crisis, according to a government report Wednesday.

    Overlooked on economy? Rising paychecks for blue-collar ...
    www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/08/14/blue...
    Aug 14, 2019 • Blue-collar path to solid paycheck. And as blue-collar workers have seen their wallets thicken, highly educated white-collar workers’ wages have grown more modestly.

    • Pay
    gains under Trump best since the Great Recession
    www.cnbc.com/2018/01/31/pay-gains-under-trumps...
    Jan 31, 2018 • President Donald Trump's first full year in office saw gains that easily outdistanced any year for his predecessor, Barack Obama, whose best showing was the 2.2 percent increases in 2016 and 2014. Six of Obama's eight years in office saw gains of 2 percent or less.
     
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    Black and Hispanic unemployment is at a record low
    www.cnbc.com/2019/10/04/black-and-hispanic...
    Oct 04, 2019 · The jobless rate for Hispanics hit a record low of 3.9% in September, while African Americans maintained its lowest rate ever, 5.5%. The Hispanic women unemployment rate was 3.8% in September and ...

    https://www.atr.org/thanks-trump-median-household-income-highest-level-ever

    Real median household income has grown by $4,144 or 6.8 percent since President Trump took office, according to an op-ed published in the Wall Street Journal.
    This data is based on a report released by Sentier Research analyzing the Census Bureau’s monthly Current Population Survey.
    As noted in the op-ed, authored by Stephen Moore, real median household income is at an all-time high:
    “Real median household income—the amount earned by those in the very middle—hit $65,084 (in 2019 dollars) for the 12 months ending in July. That’s the highest level ever and a gain of $4,144, or 6.8%, since Mr. Trump took office. By comparison, during 7½ years under President Obama—starting from the end of the recession in June 2009 through January 2017—the median household income rose by only about $1,000.”
    The below chart highlights the strong Trump wage growth.


    Economy & Politics: Income Gap Grows under Trump, Obama — but ...
    www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/income-gap-growth...
    Indeed, in a bit more than half of his term, Trump’s $5,003 mountain of growth in median household income is 346 percent higher than Bush-Obama’s $1,444 molehill of marginal middle-class earnings. https://www.nationalreview.com/.../income-gap-growth.../
     
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    The only one the bias news wouldn't report on any of all the good he did. Liberals know nothing about Trump's many achievements as I have been showing.
     
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    It's hard to rate them as most people haven't the slightest idea of what they did. They're only going by what they heard, or by Party.
     
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    Let me contradict you.
    I would not say so.
     
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    12 x Trump
    11 x Nixon
     
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    Recovery Has Created Far More Low-Wage Jobs Than Better-Paid ...
    www.nytimes.com/2014/04/28/business/economy/...
    Apr 27, 2014 · Economy Recovery Has Created Far More Low-Wage Jobs Than Better-Paid Ones
    How good were the 10.9 million jobs under Obama?
    Money.CNN.com/2016/11/04/news/economy/jobs-under-obama/...
    Nov 03, 2016 · CNNMoney breaks down what kinds of jobs have been created and ... Almost all of the job gains under President Obama have been in so-called service jobs,

    The deep recession wiped out primarily high-wage and middle-wage jobs. Yet the strongest employment growth during the sluggish recovery has been in low-wage work, at places like strip malls and fast-food restaurants.

    In essence, the poor economy has replaced good jobs with bad ones. That is the conclusion of a new report from the National Employment Law Project, a research and advocacy group, analyzing employment trends four years into the recovery.

    “Fast food is driving the bulk of the job growth at the low end — the job gains there are absolutely phenomenal,” said Michael Evangelist, the report’s author. “If this is the reality — if these jobs are here to stay and are going to be making up a considerable part of the economy — the question is, how do we make them better?”

    The report shows that total employment has finally surpassed its pre-recession level. “The good news is we’re back to zero,” Mr. Evangelist said.

    But job losses and gains have been skewed. Higher-wage industries — like accounting and legal work — shed 3.6 million positions during the recession and have added only 2.6 million positions during the recovery. But lower-wage industries lost two million jobs, then added 3.8 million.
    HTTPS://www.nytimes.com/…/recovery-has-created-far-more-low…



    77 percent of 2013 jobs were part-time positions ...
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/2/part-timer-nation...
    Aug 02, 2013 · Fully 77 percent of positions added to the market in 2013 have been part-time, in contrast to the positive economic news making the media rounds, according to payroll reports released in recent weeks.

    "There are now 1.2 million fewer jobs in mid- and higher-wage industries than there were before the Great Recession, according to data from the National Employment Law Project. In contrast, there are 2.3 million more jobs in lower-wage sectors than before the recession," according to CNBC. Nor is there the hoped-for renaissance in American manufacturing. We have some 300,000 fewer manufacturing jobs since President Barack Obama took office and 1.5 million jobs below the pre-recession level.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/08/23/the-part-time-economic-recovery
     
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    Welfare At All-Time High Under Obama

    The latest government figures reveal that an astonishing number of people are collecting public benefits such as food stamps and disability checks, revealing an alarming trend of dependence on government rather than self-sufficiency associated with the American dream.

    A record 5.4 million workers have applied for federal disability checks since President Obama took office, according to a news report that cites recent government figures. This is straining already-stretched government finances while posing a long-term economic threat by creating an ever-growing pool of permanently dependent working-age Americans, the report says.

    Since the recession supposedly ended in mid 2009, the number of people who have applied for disability benefits is double the job growth figure, according the report which includes an informative chart. In just the first four months of this year, 539,000 joined the disability rolls and more than 725,000 applied for the federal benefit. That means nearly 11 million people are on disability, according to the Social Security Administration.

    Also this week, government figures reveal that a record number are getting food stamps and the figure will keep rising. This is not surprising since the Obama Administration has promoted the program like there’s no tomorrow in an effort to eradicate “food insecure households.” In fact, the administration has spent millions of dollars to recruit even more food-stamp recipients and has doled out hefty cash rewards to states that sign up the most people. One state even bragged about a $5 million performance bonus it got from the feds for its “swift processing of applications.”https://www.judicialwatch.org/.../welfare-at-all-time.../
     
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    I have to wonder what planet Liberals have been living on for the last 8 years to think Obama has done a good job fighting ISIS and keeping us safe. By doing so, he has caused the murder of tens of thousands of others. How intelligent is he when he calls ISIS Jr. Varsity and sits back and allows them to take over almost half of Iraq, doing little to stop them till American heads are chopped off and public pressure made him make token attacks against them? With our planes coming back with 75% if their armaments because of restrictions Obama put on them? How smart is he to think Russia and Iran would stand back and do nothing while he try's to take out Assad, their biggest Allie in the Middle East? How smart is he to take out the government of Libya at a time we never had better relations with them and then just walk away and let it fall to terrorist and ISIS. Who then attacked our embassy and killed the Ambassador and three others? We had no one to call for help for them then. Why didn't he send help, or at least pull them out like most of the other nations did with their embassies? How smart was he to back stab Egypt's President Mubarak? We were only saved from that fiasco by the Egyptian Army. He has most of the Middle East hating him. His actions in the Middle East has caused the death of tens of thousands and caused millions of Muslim refugees and terrorist to invade Europe which will never be the same again. His actions will effect the world forever. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko had appealed to the US and the international community for more weapons to help in its fight against pro-Russian ...
    He asked Obama for weapons to defend his country and Obama gave him food, boats, blankets, uniforms and night vision glasses. No weapons. Ukraine President said you can't fight a war with blankets. The man has been a disaster to the world and you people are praising him?
     
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    G W Bush is a war criminal, starting an illegal war which killed 100,000 people, displaced millions and wrecked the country while destabilising the entire region. Should be at the Hague.
     
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    (Lets look and see who has really given into the Russians. The bias news won't tell you.

    Obama Appeases Putin By Ending U.S. Broadcasts Into Russia ...
    https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/...
    Liberty: U.S. radio broadcasts to Russians are to end. With President Obama's friend Vladimir Putin getting a dubious 64% in a five-way presidential race in March, this is no time to pretend Russia...


    Did Obama Pledge ‘More Flexibility’ Toward Russia After ...
    https://www.snopes.com/fact.../obama-more-flexibility-russia

    Dec 13, 2016 · A hot microphone picked up President Obama telling Russian President Dmitri Medvedev he would have more flexibility to negotiate on issues like


    The Anti-Obama: Trump Selling Missile Defense To Poland ...
    https://www.dailywire.com/.../anti-obama-trump-selling... When Barack Obama capitulated to Russia in 2010 by removing missile launchers in Poland that neared the Russian border? There’s a new sheriff in town. On Wednesday, the Polish state news agency PAP reported that Poland’s government will buy the Patriot missile defense system from the U.S.

    Trump in Poland: U.S. To Sell Warsaw Arms to Stop 'Hot …
    ://www.newsweek.com/trump-Poland-Warsaw-us-arms-Russia... A move set to counter Russia’s reinforcement on NATO's borders, Poland and the U.S. Have agreed that Warsaw will purchase the American-made Patriot air defense missile, the Polish government announced Thursday. Trump delighted many in Poland when he announced he would be visiting the country .


    Trump Sends Tank-Killing Missile To Fight Russia in ...
    ://www.newsweek.com/trump-tank-killing-missile-fight... Trump administration approved the sale of anti-tank missiles to Ukraine on Friday as it continues to fight pro-Russian forces in the eastern part of the country, a move that has angered the Kremlin and signifies the U.S. …
    The President of Ukraine asked Obama for weapons to defend his country against Russian backed Ukrainian insurgents wanting to take over the country. Obama gave them food, uniforms, trucks,night vision glasses and blankets. NO WEAPONS. The Ukrainian President said later, you can't fight a war with blankets. Trump gave them the weapons.


    Trump admin announced fresh sanctions on Russia - CNNPolitics
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/26/politics/us-russia-sanctions...
    Jan 26, 2018 · The Trump administration announced new sanctions Friday related to Russia's occupation of Crimea and ongoing violence in eastern Ukraine, just days ahead of a congressionally mandated deadline for ...


    Trump administration withdraws from U.S.-Russia nuclear weapons ...
    https://www.usatoday.com/.../trump.../2737306002/
    1 day ago - Trump administration withdraws from nuclear weapons treaty, .... Closely review the security implications of Russian intermediate-range missiles and ... Theme he has hit on since Trump's decision to nix the Iran nuclear accord, .
    The Left bitched because he got tough with our NATO Allies. Said he was driving our Allies away. Both Bush and Obama tried to get NATO to put their fair share into a very weak NATO without success. Trump got it and we didn't lose them. ( Nato members increase defense spending by $100 billion ...
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/01/27/nato-members-increase-defence-spending-100...

    Jan 27, 2019 · Nato states will increase their defense spending by $100 billion in response to Donald Trump's demands that European allies shoulder a greater financial burden, the …
    Author: Julie Allen


    NATO head praises Trump for tough talk to member countries
    https://nypost.com/2019/01/27/nato-head-praises-trump-for-tough-talk-to-member-countries

    Jan 27, 2019 · WASHINGTON – The head of NATO on Sunday praised President Trump for demanding member countries pony up more money, saying Trump’s tough talk has produced “real results.” “President Trump .


    U.S. Says It Has Thwarted $6 Billion Russia-Germany Gas ...
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-15/...
    Feb 15, 2020 · Trump has assailed Germany for giving “billions” to Russia for gas while it benefits from U.S. protection. Nord Stream 2’s owners had invested 5.8 …


    Trump knew Russia interfered into our election, but...……... The news reporters put Trump in position to say he believed Russia didn't try and influence our elections. He knew better. What was he to do with Putin sitting right next to him after Putin denied it, call him a liar to his face? At the time Trump was trying to play nice with Putin. He needed his and China's help to enforce sanctions on N. Korea to get them to give up their nuclear weapons. Calling him a liar to his face would do nothing to accomplish that
     
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    CIA director Brennan admits ISIS was “decimated” under Bush, but ...
    www.aei.org/.../brennan-admits-isis-was-decimated-under-bush-but-has-grown-under-...

    Nov 17, 2015 - by the CIA's own estimate, ISIS has grown on President Obama's watch from just 700 fighters to between 20000 and 31500 fighters. ... Admission: The Islamic State was “decimated” under George W. Bush and had just “700-or-so adherents left” following the surge in Iraq. Said Brennan: [ISIS] was, you know
    U.S. Pilots: Obama blocks 75% of ISIS strikes - WND
    https://www.wnd.com/2015/11/u-s-pilots-obama-blocks-75-of-isis-strikes
    Nov 20, 2015 · U.S. Pilots: Obama blocks 75% of ISIS strikes ... Pilots who have returned from deployments say Obama refuses to permit airstrikes 75 percent …





    Obama never got serious fighting ISIS till his last year in office. To


    late by then, damage had already been done. Thousands killed



    and made homeless. Millions fled to Europe, which will never be



    the same again.

    1. nypost.com › 2019/10/09 › sorry-joe-team-obamaSorry, Joe: Team Obama refused to arm Ukraine at all

      The Wall Street Journal reported at the time that “President Barack Obama stuck to his refusal to provide weapons or other lethal military gear to Ukraine.” Why? Team Obama feared that lethal ...
     
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    You left out "All of the Above"...
     
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    1. americasfreedomfighters.com › obama-refuses-toOBAMA REFUSES TO GIVE JORDAN DRONES TO BATTLE ISIS! (Video!)

      Obama and the State Dept. have refused a request by Jordan to send unarmed Predator drones saying that 'Jordan is not a strong enough ally of the U.S.
    www.nationalreview.com › 2014 › 09Obama Betrays the Kurds | National Review

    The Kurds are begging for arms. The administration has not only refused to send arms, but is exerting pressure both on our NATO allies and on Israel not to send any either. Over 150,000 Kurds
     
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    Iraq War Intelligence Failures Led to Current Limitations

    https://www.afcea.org/content/iraq-war-intelligence-failures-led-current-limitations

     
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    I hope people can see that these Presidents aren't nearly like they have been painted. Not as bad or good as they have been shown to be. This happens with a bias news and political Party.
     
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    What's the criteria for "bad"?

    Is it unemployment levels, GDP, deficit, inflation, stock market performance etc...
     
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    Why would anyone think Reaganomics was a bad thing? I remember it well, and it saved us from "Stagflation" and ruinous hyperinflation.

    Prediction: after about three more months of this horrific economic mess that these 'progressive' Democrats are making for all of us this winter people will be screaming for something very similar to Reaganomics once again.

    But Democrats won't let that happen -- their mantra now is "LOWER YOUR EXPECTATIONS"!

    If you ever read Orwell's masterpiece, "1984", you've seen this general 'neo-socialism' storyline before... and you probably have a good idea how it ends, too. :lol:
     
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    Everything he has done is wrong. The highlights would be Afghanistan, southern border, support of the marxist revolution. No president in history has been as destructive and his is still in his first year.
     
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    I voted strictly on policies and results, not personality or scandals real or perceived.

    Carter
    Obama
    Biden

    All failures in their policies and execution.
     
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    I traveled Europe right after the fall when the ER trains were first allowed through the Czech Republic and East Germany and Berlin. ALL the people we met almost teared up when Reagan's name came up and how much they admired and appreciated him and his standing up the Russians as no American President ever had and credited him with their new found freedom.
     
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    Here is the present result:

    1. Nixon
      19 vote(s)
      52.8%

    2. Ford
      3 vote(s)
      8.3%

    3. Carter
      11 vote(s)
      30.6%

    4. George H. W. Bush
      5 vote(s)
      13.9%

    5. Clinton
      5 vote(s)
      13.9%

    6. George W. Bush
      16 vote(s)
      44.4%

    7. Obama
      14 vote(s)
      38.9%
    8. *
      Trump
      20 vote(s)
      55.6%

    9. Biden
      14 vote(s)
      38.9%

    10. Reagan
      9 vote(s)
      25.0%

    11. somebody else
      5 vote(s)
      13.9%

    12. nobody
      0 vote(s)
      0.0%
     
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    Now:

    20 x Trump
    19 x Nixon
     
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    I voted for all of them...

    However,

    Trump and Reagan were the best of a bad lot.

    The worst in order,

    Biden, Obama, Bush II, Nixon, Carter, Clinton, Bush I, Ford.
     

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