1/6 committee to 'swiftly consider' criminal contempt for Steve Bannon, others who ignore subpoenas

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  1. Egoboy

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    Biden is fully correct and he's not DEMANDING anything... he's stating a fact that people who break the law probably should be pursued by the DOJ... it's what they used to do anyway...

    I would double check who the possible moron is in this equation...
     
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    This one is BUILT around investigating an event caused by SPECIFIC legislation... It's even in the name of the committee..

    Whether that archaic law will change is another story, but this investigation could easily lead to modifying it...

    Congress isn't abusing their authority here... they might finally be USING it...
     
  3. Richard Franks

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    That January 6 incident still upsets me.
     
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    Yes, I don't like ANY such riots happening and anyone who does so and commits a crime should be charged and prosecuted. That is happen with Jan 6, over 600 arrest. That's HUGE. I wish they would do so for instance the riots and insurrection last week at the Interior Department.

    This committee is engaging in an unconstitutional criminal investigation and denying people their due process and constitutionally guarantied rights. In a trial they cannot make you testify against yourself. Only YOU decide if you are going to testify under oath. You have a right against self incrimination. There are criminal investigations going on, which if you believe the Dems in Congress involves the people they are trying to force to go under oath before and testify. Congress is saying they trump all that and can call you because they are doing a criminal investigation here. They have no authority to do either. They are limited in their authority to call people to testify to that which is for legislative purposes.

    We ALL should be outraged here. They are demanding all the phone records and emails and text messages of these private citizens who had not even been charged with crimes. Whats happened to the 4th and 5th Amendments?

    I fully expect these subpoenas to be stayed while it makes through the courts perhaps to the SCOTUS.
     
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    What are you talking about? What is the legislative purpose of this committee? Where does Congress get the authority to demand the private and personal records of people who have not even been charged with crimes?

    These Dems in Congress DO believe these people committed crimes and that is what they are looking for. Where do they get the constitutional authority to force people under criminal investigation by law enforcement to testify. They can't make you do that in court.
     
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    Witch hunts are going to witch hunt.
     
  7. Polydectes

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    For somebody putting their feet on Nancy pelosi's desk? What should be the change?
     
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    The person that ignored a congressional subpoena put their feet on Pelosi’s desk?
     
  9. Polydectes

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    What happened on January 6th was someone went into the Capitol building and put their feet on someone's desk.

    Subpoenaing people to freak out about this is a waste of government resources and it will probably cost the people doing this in 2022 I don't think the majority of people in the US care about burning these particular witches.
     
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    Should people be able to ignore subpoena’s that they believe are “a waste”?
     
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    Not much legal grounds to stand on. It’s a clown show to begin with.
     
  12. Polydectes

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    Should prosecutions be for actual crimes?
     
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    Absolutely which is the purpose of a subpoena. Do you care to answer my question?
     
  14. Polydectes

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    I did.

    There isn't an actual crime here.
     
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    The purpose of investigations is to ascertain whether charges should be filed. It’s the same principle of the grand jury process. Congress is right on target in investigating the origins and the players behind the idiotic, destructive attempt by Trump and his band of idiots to reverse the election. Then they can pass legislation to prevent such further idiocy in coming elections.
     
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    When Clinton was President, he did not ignore a subpoena to appear before a civil court to be deposed and testify before. What makes a crooked scumbag like Bannon exempt? Hillary who had been a private citizen for years testified in front of a congressional committee for 10 hours on live TV in 2015. Some people respect the US Constitution and others like Trump and his crooked cronies spit on it.
     
  17. Egoboy

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    Geez... I'll go slower, but give you one last chance to figure it out for yourself... What EXACTLY was going on during the insurrection attempt and WHY?

    https://thefulcrum.us/electoral-count-act-reform

    There's your crystal clear legislative purpose.... the fact that there were also crimes committed on that day confirms the dual purpose of this committee..
     
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    if we do not punish them, then a congressional subpoena means nothing going forward
     
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    after Trump, no US President or their admin will ever appear under oath for crimes during their terms(s) again... ever
     
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    For someone who claims to have never supported Trump in anything, I find you never lose an opportunity to defend him.

    Congress has investigative power that is enshrined in the Constitution.

    The events of 1/6 traumatized America and it is important to know how the political and judicial actors around Trump may have participated.
     
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    For any Congressional nerds out there, this is the Congressional record on Bannon's no-show at his deposition... equal parts interesting and boring.. I like the minute-by-minute account of Bannon not showing up for his testimony....

    https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IJ/IJ00/20211019/114156/HRPT-117-NA.pdf

    In the America I used to know, Bannon would be arrested after the vote taken tonight....

    I understand the DOJ needs to remain independent in their decisions, but whatever they end up doing, just do it fast..... Full Stop
     
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    I must have missed a yes or no response then.

    Should individuals being summoned be allowed not show up if they believe there is no actual crime?
     
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    What is all this crime talk nonsense.. congressional committees have been formed for centuries on issues other than possible crimes.

    I read both the crime nonsense and the legislative purpose nonsense. NEITHER needs to apply to a committee of this type, although both are in play regardless..
     
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    ignoring a congressional subpoena is an actual crime
     
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    Amen to that.
     

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