the habit of bringing up comparisons with Hitler and the Nazis

the habit of bringing up comparisons with Hitler and the Nazis

It seems to be a popular game.
Remember Godwin's Law.
What do you think about it?

What I think about it I will write later on

 

Its the most universally understood reference/comparison for things such as totalitarianism, genocide and democide. Not everyone might get a reference to Pol Pol or Ceausescu, but everyone knows Hitler.

 

So that's one of his "achievements"?

 

Being the posterchild for evil govt? Yes, I'd say so

 

Frankly, it annoys me.

We had a German poster here at one time who had a rather grating personality, so any thread he started usually degenerated into a rehash of World War II. For me it was embarrassing, because even though the guy was an ass, I wanted to hear what he had to say. Instead, all of his threads degenerated into Hitler-this or Nazi's-that. Not by him mind you, but by other posters who wanted to attack him and took the dumbest and easiest route.

That's a tiny slice of what goes on in the the larger political argument. Certainly it's degenerated the political conversation in the United States over the past few years when every tweet by Trump or policy by his administration was denounced as "reminiscent of the 1930's" or some version of "that's what the Nazi's would do." When your political discourse is that dumb, it's impossible to even have a discussion.

And while we're on the subject, Fascism doesn't describe the political/economic system of any country in the world, and it hasn't for a long time. And I would seriously question whether it describes any politician in the world, although it's used quite frequently. In great ironic moments, we have a group that actually calls itself Antifa, while going around like a bunch of brownshirts (see what I did there?) destroying property and terrorizing people.

I would retire the world Fascism from common discourse until there is an actual fascist threat, which hasn't yet materialized in the post war era.

 

Benito Mussolini was a Socialist who adopted Fascism because Socialism was too egalitarian. Fascism gave Benito the tools to shove Socialism down the throats of his Italian subjects:

“Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”
Benito Mussolini

Try this on for Radical Islam -- know what Infidel means?

Everything within Islam, nothing outside Islam, nothing against Islam.

Try this for Nazi Germany -- an extreme Fascist state

Everything within the (debunked) Aryan race, nothing outside the (debunked) Aryan race, nothing against the (debunked) Aryan race.

Try this on for the authors of today's cancel culture:

Everything within Progressivism, nothing outside Progressivism, nothing against Progressivism.

Communism (like Stalinism and Maoism) embodies elements of Fascism. Nazism embodies elements of Fascism. China's regime embodies elements of Fascism.

Don't be annoyed. The party of Slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, and Segregation hangs 'racism' around the necks of the Party that freed their slaves.

Woodrow Wilson, the Patron Saint of Progressivism, was the first post bellum President to segregate the Civil Service.

With all the statues that have been taken down, the statue of Exalted Cleagle Robert Byrd remains standing in the Capitol Rotunda and the Monument to White Supremacist Steven Douglas still stands in 'Progressive' Chicago.

FDR conspired with Breckinridge Long to hang Jews out to dry in Europe by cooking the asylum books to prevent millions from escaping Hitler. FDR turned away the MS St Louis with 900 Jewish refugees in 1939 -- 255 are said to have died in the Holocaust.

I have no idea why Jews and blacks have gravitated to the Party of Slavery and anti-Semitism, but I don't let it annoy me -- and I lost family to the Holocaust, likely with help from Democrats.

BTW. No question Antifa is a Fascist cult. Trust your gut and push back against the deceptive narratives and above all else, remember that the Socialist apple doesn't fall far from the Fascist tree.

 

Just to add a point to your already in-depth analysis here, is the fact that the current democrat led congress now is filled with whacked out women (especially in the 'SQUAD') who by their very own words are anti Semites to the max. I always wondered how or what the Jew Chuckie Schumer thought about those anti Semites that help represent much of the Democrat congress.

One other point: Hitler and the Nazis were national socialists, so when we hear the left call Trump and other capitalists on the right Nazis etc., I just have to laugh at their obvious ignorance seeing how their party has now bowed down to the radical socialists, and their leader-Biden has honored his words as being the nation's most progressive (socialist-my term for him) president.

 

Let's see where this thread will go:

Your guy is a Nazi
No, your guy is a Nazi
No, your guy is a Nazi
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Oh, we are almost there already.

 

That reminds me: "Are we nearly there yet?"

 

I have said this many times who fights Fascism with Fascism?

 

Some comparisons are perfectly valid, the problem is people are always trying to smear the person with genocide and mass graves, not make direct, impartial comparisons.

I avoid comparing people to Nazis unless they're genocidal mass murders. If I am making a comparison not based in genocidal mass murder I try to heavily qualify the comment.

 

Busy day clarifying butter so I can caramelize onions for french onion soup, but one should note that the Nazis were very disappointed to find out that American Democrats beat them to the punch with Blacks as they proudly sat down in Nuremberg to craft laws that enslaved, disenfranchised and murdered Jews. Must have been alot of dropped jaws to find out that they weren't pioneering disenfranchisement and eugenics. In fact, the Democrat's own Margaret Sanger offered her expertise to the Nazi plan.

Also interesting to note that Harvard was a contributor to putting Hitler on the map.

More later.

 

Reductio ad Hitlerum, I just was affected by it myself.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...n-ban-in-texas.592966/page-15#post-1073012305

It is intended as a verbal punch in the face.
Unless you meet a Hitler fanboy. He'll take that as praise.

 

Here ya go:
https://www.bostonmagazine.com/2006/05/15/the-harvard-nazi/

My paternal grandfather came to the US in 1913 from Kolomyya. He came alone at 17 years old,leaving his parents, a brother and a sister, my Greats. They were all killed in the Holocaust. There was never any talk of them --- all I had was that my paternal grandparents were buried in a cemetery for immigrants from Kolomyya. Before my father passed I researched and was able to find birth records for his family and asked what became of them. He gave me the same answer his father gave him. He didn't want to talk about it.
My grandfather was a sample maker in the NY garment industry. I have to believe he tried to bring his family to the US when things started going south across the pond. I probably could find out if an application was rejected by the Democrats in power, but I'd rather not know at this point.

 

As the son of Holocaust survivors and a descendant of those who were massacred during the Holocaust. From my perspective there is no "habit of bringing up comparisons with Hitler and nazis" when appropriate. Multiple genocidal wars have been waged under all sorts of phony pretexts since WWII by several governments including and especially the US government. In the case of the US government it was always for the benefit of the military industrial complex. Is that any different than what Hitler and the nazis did? Not much. Millions were massacred by both governments.

 

History is prone to repeat itself after a few generations. That's why it's relevant.

 

Perhaps his only one.

 

Or a hell of a lot sooner.

 

Exactly right.

Alexandria Conquistador Donkey Chompers staffer calls Israel a ‘racist European ethnostate’ that was built on ‘stolen land.’

Yes, "new beginnings" in ancient hatreds.

Another Leftwing Hater moron in need of a IQ lift. Sensible reasonable Leftists should call this out.

Funny how this keeps happening to AOC: AOC chief of staff criticized for wearing shirt touting Nazi collaborator:

 

Hitler was just a misunderstood Austrian.

 

Yeah, but sometimes it is a fair comparison.

Or at least there is some partial truth to the comparison, if mostly hyperbolic and exaggerated. It's still a poignant way of pointing something out.

 

Deeply misunderstood.

 

And North Korea is a democratic republic.

 

I got some Hitler jokes..... How did Hitler tie his boots? In little Nazis, of course!

Poor, poor Hitler such a misunderstood man, he only said that he wanted a glass of juice, not to gas the Jews!