Whoopi Goldberg blamed Colin Powell death on unvaccinated

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The clot shots are not vaccines in the strict meaning of the word. They do much more than develop antibodies.

    Is it a sign of rational dialogue when corrupted terms and word meanings are thrown around? I think not.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, they do want us to take the clot shots, and it's not for public health reasons.
     
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    They are absolutely vaccines. Some peoples' bodies react negatively to their existence as some do with every other vaccine ever developed. This is the reason vaccines require medical intervention. They aren't self administered. Only you have corrupted terms.
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Are they prions then? Or are prions even simpler?
     
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    I can't tell you how relieved I was to see the gun turrets and bomb mount points on my last Delta flight....
     
  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Yeh "YOU'RE doing okay, and SO FAR

    If you're vaccinated good for you. If you're not, good luck and in either case stop killing people by telling them not to get vaccinated

    The ONLY reason that Trumpers are telling people not to get vaccinated is because most of them are still in Trump's original "hoax" mode. They honestly STILL believe it's a hoax, or it will go away in the fall or if they just don;t bring it up at the press conferences it will just somehow 'disappear'. In any case DON'T recognize the malady actually exists by taking a vaccine against it. You see, Trump and his followers think reality is malleable and depends on us. All we have to do is think Good American Thoughts, beat up an immigrant and no disease can stop us, We don' need no steenking vaccines.
     
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    Kommie Harris herself said right on the the news media’s. “I won’t take the Trump vaccine”.
    First of all, good for Kommie in giving Trump credit where credit is due. But how many people has this statement from a VP. Killed? How many others didn’t get the jab due to what Kommie and others in influence
    Said ????
     
  8. independentthinker

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    You are right. Don't let the lefties trick you. Both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, if exposed to equal amounts of the virus, carry the same viral load.
     
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    They aren't prions. Prions don't have RNA or DNA like a virus.
     
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    Yes but vaccinated people have antibodies ready to go. They have a head start in reducing the viral load. The poster to which you replied was right in the sense that a vaccinated person is less likely to have severe symptoms simply because the antibodies are already there when the infection arrives. So while your response is kind of correct, equal viral loads will be reduced faster in a vaccinated person. In an un-vaccinated person the antibodies are more likely to be overwhelmed by the virus resulting in more severe symptoms or hospitalization or death if there is a co-morbidity present. The outcome of the war between antibodies and viral particles depends on several things ranging from overall health of the patient to the virulence of the infection in addition to the presence of antibodies prior to infection.
     
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    Actually the only thing that can cure a viral infection is the immune system. These things may help treat symptoms. They may even interfere with some viral reproduction but they have no effect on a virus directly. Maybe one or more of them could help to interfere with the ability of a virus from connecting with a living cell. I don't know. What I do know is that you need a healthy immune system with the right antibodies to deal with a virus directly. Guaranteed.
     
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    Do some research on covid and nose/throat. Salt water and peroxide are a huge benefit alone. It lives in the soft palate. Constant flushing and gargling with saline and peroxide on early onset is crucial. My dental hygienist confirmed this when she had me gargle peroxide for 30 seconds pre cleaning. She said at their training they were told it lives in the soft palate. I have used peroxide and nasal saline irrigation for years at the onset of any illness with great results. Put it in your health arsenal.
     
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    I'm not against your gargling. I was simply correcting the misinformation that it can cure a virus.
     
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    Yes, but it's not as strong or as active
     
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    says who Biden? Doc Falsi ?
     
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    The thing is, asymptomatic people spread the virus and that means both the asymptomatic vaccinated and the unvaccinated. This is the time frame when the virus spreads the most and both groups have the same viral load at that point. I remember back in the day when most everyone did temperature checks of people to stop the virus from spreading. That was mostly ineffective because it was the asymptomatic who were spreading the virus. By the time you started showing symptoms such as a fever, etc, you were basically no longer spreading the virus because you realized that you were sick and weren't going out. So, during this time when the virus spreads the most, both groups have the same viral load. In fact, you could argue that the vaccinated actually spread it more because they continue going out while asymptomatic while the unvaccinated start getting sick and stay at home.
     
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    It spreads. In fact, and facts show that in the first few days of being asymptomatic, both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated have the same viral loads. In fact, you could argue that the vaccinated actually spread it more because they continue spreading it while being asymptomatic while the unvaccinated who start feeling symptoms don't go out because they are sick. It's like the old temperature check days. For the most part, checking people's temperatures was fairly useless because the virus spread during the time you are asymptomatic and when you started feeling symptoms you knew you were sick and didn't go out as much and therefore could not fail a temp check because you weren't there to spread the virus and you weren't there to fail the temp check. It is the asymptomatic spreading the virus and that is both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated with the very same viral loads. By the time the viral loads grew lesser in the vaccinated, the unvaccinated were getting sick and not going out to spread the virus.
     
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    Powell had other illnesses, blood cancer and something else, and he was 84.
     
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    Didn't he have pretty aggressive cancer? Want he in the final stages of it?
     
  20. Darthcervantes

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    I don’t know to be honest
    I just was curious because I been hearing about many covid deaths in the vaccinated lately (yes I know it occurs more with unvaccinated)
     
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    Well we know they were saying people that died in motorcycle accidents we're actually covid deaths.

    You may ask why a hospital would do that and it's because they get reimbursed by the government because the person died of a pandemic that's why the declaration of a pandemic is so important.

    I honestly think they were lying about something else. You remember a few months ago we got that information that 96% of people that died of covid were over the age of 80. That was from the CDC but it's been completely buried I can't find it now I've been looking.

    So it makes me wonder how many of these people just died and they said it was covid so they'd get paid.

    That's what Italy was doing
     
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    the vaccine only helps if you do get it, that is the point, it's trains your immune system to fight the virus if\when you do get it

    did you think the vaccine acted like a condom?

    you keep asking these kinda questions, think it would soak in by now
     
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    Studies indicate that unvaxed spread just as easily as vaxed ... and as such the CDC has stated this is the case.

    Despite this fact .. CNN is still preaching the anti vax hysteria .. Welcome to the propaganda machine.
     
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    It appears to reduce the symptoms - so when folks do get it .. they do not get quite as ill.. Folks from a certain group that is .. people with comorbidities - Obesity - pneumonia succeptibility For people not in that category the risk of death from the vax is as much as the risk of harm from covid.
     
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    Sorry kid... talking to people doesn't kill anyone. Remember the old "words will never hurt me" thing? I don't support or condemn vaccinations one way or the other. I simply say its up to each individual to make their own choice. You seem to need CONTROL... I don't. You beat up immigrants? Why? Why did you bring this up? You need to find an immigrant to beat up? Wow.
     

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