1/6 committee to 'swiftly consider' criminal contempt for Steve Bannon, others who ignore subpoenas

A co-conspirator to over throw a duly elected incoming POTUS. The evidence is what's being sought after through legal means. Steve will like jail, it's segregated.

 

Give me the evidence that there was an attempt to overthrow the government and copy the FBI since they say there was none. Give me the evidence of a conspiracy since the FBI says there was none.

Are all you are left with is made stuff claiming it as fact? You've presented nothing. Bannon has NOT been charged with a crime, partisan members of Congress have NO authority to try and force him to take the stand and testify against himself for a crime they claim, without evidence to support it, he committed and have apparently convince you of that fallacious assertion.

 

Why did Reagan testify under oath in Iran Contra Hearings?

Why did Weinberger, Shultz and others testify in Iran Contra?

Why did Clinton testify under oath in Benghazi hearings?

Why did John Dean, Erlichman, Haldeman, Segretti, Mitchell all testify in Watergate Hearings?

You like all Trump apologists act like poor Donny is the first crooked politician ever to be investigated. The reason all of the above people testified is either because they were subpoenaed or asked to testify and did so because they knew the would be compelled to under subpoena. Nixon tried this executive privilege crap decades ago champ. It doesn’t fly.

 

8 days and counting of "swiftly considering".

Liz Cheney Goes Full Deranged Wack Job Conspiracy Theorist Over Capitol Protest.

A better kid than Hunter.
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"Liz Cheney’s career as a congresswoman will be ending soon, and she is determined to go down swinging like a lunatic at Trump. The Wyoming congresswoman believes that President Trump was “personally involved” with the January 6 Capitol riot."

"Cheney’s" deranged "conclusion is absurd" and "contradicts" the "FBI investigation that" found no "evidence that the Capitol riot was coordinated — let alone personally “planned and executed” by the Trump White House."

The crackpot "requests by the committee don’t serve any “legitimate legislative purpose,” and that the request is “not just overly broad, it requests documents including campaign polling data.”"

Of course Trump asserted privilege. If anyone has a problem with them not responding to the kangaroo committee subpoenas, thay can litigate it.

 

Cheney’s “deranged conclusion” was the same as Mitch McConnell’s, Kevin McCarthy’s, Lindsay Graham and most others besides deranged lunatics like Guiliani, Gaetz, Pillow man and other total lunatics who live with their heads deep up Trump’s ass right after the insurrection. Then realizing that a great percentage of GOP voters all live in that state, they all guttlessly returned and continue to suck up to the Orange menace. In the long run, any of those who cow towed to Trump will be the ones who will be cast out of congress, not Cheney.

 

I’ve just watched a show 4 Hours at the Capitol and seen footage I’ve never seen before.
What happened that day is an outrage. It is a stain on the history of the country. It was thousands of traitors trying to stage a coup, and there is no doubt that trump incited them. His months of lies about a “stolen” election - an election that he lost - were the direct cause of that insurrection.

All true patriots should welcome this committee’s work. Anyone who opposes that work is not a patriot.

 

We've covered this ad nauseum... there is a crystal clear legislative purpose to this committee...

BTW, what was the legislative purpose to the various Benghazi committees?

And careful, I'm eating dinner... don't make me spew chili all over my keyboard...

 

I've heard that's a pretty good documentary... but alas, it's on HBO, so I'll have to wait until a free trial.

Plenty of non-Patriots on this very site... and in Congress

I'm interested to see the Bannon contempt vote tomorrow... Will be interesting to see if the GOP members completely jettison any chance Congress will be a meaningful investigative body ever again...

Last I heard, they think they might have a majority in 2023... a majority of what remains to be seen...

 

It's been brought up because ad naseum you won't address it. I have explained why Benghazi was different, oversight of the Department of State and Defense and the Secretaries of both as officials who must be confirmed by the Senate. It was NOT as a criminal matter.

So try again

Why do they not apply to a "committee of this type"? Congressional subpoenas must be for a legislative purpose.

"The Supreme Court has recognized Congress’s power to issue subpoenas, saying in order to write laws it also needs to be able to investigate.

Congress’ power to issue subpoenas, while broad, is not unlimited. The high court has said Congress is not a law enforcement agency, and cannot investigate someone purely to expose wrongdoing or damaging information about them for political gain. A subpoena must potentially further some “legitimate legislative purpose,” the court has said."
https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/explainer-can-congress-enforce-subpoena

What is legislative purpose of the Bannon subpoena. You yourself has stated it is to get something to charge him with a crime. Well SORRY you can't make someone go under oath so the prosecutor can make them give testimony against themselves. Even a COURT cannot make you take the stand against yourself.

Do you really believe the government should be able to compel someone who has not even been charged with a crime to take the stand as a witness against themselves? No more 5th Amendment?

 

I NEVER said that... So you cannot back that up... and you know it, so I won't expect you to even try...

The legislative purpose of this committee couldn't be any clearer if they put it in the name of the committee..

Oh look, they did...

 

Me>> You yourself has stated it is to get something to charge him with a crime.

".... the fact that there were also crimes committed on that day confirms the dual purpose of this committee.."

"I read both the crime nonsense and the legislative purpose nonsense. NEITHER needs to apply to a committee of this type, although both are in play regardless.."

"LOL, if I got a subpoena for something I had nothing to do with, I'd gladly show up and make that immensely clear...

Wouldn't you?? Wouldn't anybody??

I think it's time for a little Occam's Razor for you..."

So try again

Why do they not apply to a "committee of this type"? Congressional subpoenas must be for a legislative purpose.

"The Supreme Court has recognized Congress’s power to issue subpoenas, saying in order to write laws it also needs to be able to investigate.

Congress’ power to issue subpoenas, while broad, is not unlimited. The high court has said Congress is not a law enforcement agency, and cannot investigate someone purely to expose wrongdoing or damaging information about them for political gain. A subpoena must potentially further some “legitimate legislative purpose,” the court has said."
https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/explainer-can-congress-enforce-subpoena

What is legislative purpose of the Bannon subpoena. You yourself has stated it is to get something to charge him with a crime. Well SORRY you can't make someone go under oath so the prosecutor can make them give testimony against themselves. Even a COURT cannot make you take the stand against yourself.

 

Enormous fail... I never said the purpose of the Bannon subpoena is to get something to charge him with a crime..

But your copy and paste skills are on full display... highest marks...

 

Not from my reading you I think it is quite clear your post are all about the "crime" and that includes you statement about Occam's Razor meaning Bannon most likely committed a crime and they can try and get him on it and that is what this is about.

What is the legislative purpose to have Bannon testify?

 

Representatives erupt at committee hearing on holding Bannon in contempt: 'Blah, blah, blah' (msn.com)
The Question is: How will they get Steve Bannon to show up? It should look like that he has to show up or else.

 

..or else WHAT.?? The problem is that Bannon sees no consequences t o his behavior.


There is no professionalism left.......just rebellion. and what looks like acting out by people who should be adults.


It feels like things are falling apart at the seems.

This is no example of how a professional , responsible democracy should operate

There are s o many challenges right now......and al we see is obstructive behavior.

If key people have no respect for the law and decorum.............. who else will?? This is akin to the wild west.........but 2021 style.

 

That argument gets 2 "laughables" from Larry Tribe

TWO!!

I only gave it one, but I defer to the Constitutionals expert...

https://news.yahoo.com/harvard-law-professor-explains-why-080844310.html

 

The evidence is what the Jan 6th congressional committee is seeking. You are jumping to the end during the beginnings of the investigation. It's an investigation into those that were involved and have knowledge of the activities behind the Jan 6th seditious conspiracy. Fear not the truth.

 

Did the FBI speak to Steve Bannon about 1/6?
Did the FBI speak to Mark Meadows about 1/6?
Did the FBI speak to Dan Scavino about 1/6?
Did the FBI speak to Googly Eyes Patel about 1/6?

It's hilarious how the RW craps on the FBI 24x7 UNTIL they do a half-assed investigation into something like 1/6 and Bart O'Kavanaugh...

 

This post needs to be repeated!

 

Then he can go and take the fifth. Is that the reason he said he won’t testify?

 

New laws to prevent future attempts to subvert us elections

 

Why? Why should we bother expending effort to convince anyone who adamantly refuses to be convinced? It's not like such people matter to the unfolding of history. What you ask for is already abundantly proven. Go look for it. If we argue for the truth all you need do is to deny it and reject it. But if you look for it yourself, when you find it you will have no argument. The truth is that there was a definite but pretty feeble attempt to overthrow the government by installing a chosen unpopular sociopath. And now evidence is being found and reported of the perpetrators and their supporters examining the events of 1/6 and developing ways to avoid making the same mistakes next time so they can succeed.

 

At this point anyone who claims to not know about what you said, doesn't WANT to know and is willing to deny and lie about what they do know.

 

Agreed! And the Democrats seem to think this will be handled by just carrying out "politics as usual". They need to think about what is going to happen if the anti-voter legislation that has been passed in states results in a government of appointed, selected "Republicans". We will have a tin pot one-party dictatorship. And the Dems need to think about what all fascist dictators do as a first task upon taking power and how they eliminate the opposition. ALL Dems will be at risk as well as any Republicans who did toe the line, like Liz Cheney. They will all be eliminated by the thugs.

So Biden needs to declare a national emergency and then take emergency powers to force a fix, but have the military at the ready.

 

This to me, is the most important thing that Congress and the Biden Admin MUST address. It's going to require fighting fire with fire. One party can't be held to 'rules' while the other is not. It's no longer politics, it's now survival of the democratic republic, hence, shared freedom and rights.