White Texas Property Owner Avoids Arrest After Killing Moroccan Driver

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  1. Independent4ever

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    If it turns out the victim was wearing a MAGA hat, he will become a hero and a martyr
     
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    Also, you cannot shoot someone for trespassing in Texas. That is objectively false. You HAVE to justify a threat to yourself to use lethal force. For instance if a teen tells me he isn’t leaving until he sees my daughter and sits down in my front yard and i shoot him I am going to jail. The element of trespassing alone is NOT enough to justify lethal force and avoid jail.

    That being said depending on the circumstances it’s far easier in Texas to justify feeling a threat to yourself when on your own property as you have no obligation to flee. As it should be .
     
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    I have no doubt the outrage of that poster would be gone instantaneously lol.
     
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  4. Independent4ever

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    yes it goes both ways
     
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    The law in Texas specifies night for many cases. 8am is daytime.
     
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    They were both white. So, white guy shoots white guy . . .
     
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    no
     
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    I'd still need to know more to assign blame, but if this guy was shot while parked on the street outside someone's property, then it is EXTREMELY misleading to refer to the shooter as the "property owner." You don't own the street outside your house.
     
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    To avoid the sort of thing that happened in this case, of course. To avoid placing myself at unnecessary risk and avoid the risk of escalation in general.

    Besides, the owner was evidently not under threat. He saw the car and was suspicious of it, but there was nothing to indicate that there was an imminent threat to his safety that indicated he couldn't wait for a police response.
     
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    You are just making things up, we know so little of this case there is zero indication of what he knew or didn’t know. You have made up your mind before even having all, or even many, of the facts. Such a leftist thing to do.
     
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    once he is dead though, you can make up whatever story you want, as the other side is silenced
     
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    That’s true, but there isn’t really a solution for that. Testimony is never reliable even in the best of circumstances.
     
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    Obviously there was an escalation. No way the property owner just walked out and shot a guy just for the hell of it.

    Same way Floyd wasn’t thrown to the ground and kneeled on just for the hell of it.

    Always more to the story. And any so called “writer” who mentions the race of the shooter in the title is a ****ing SJW hack loser.
     
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    I give you Texas Penal Code @:

    Sec. 9.41. PROTECTION OF ONE ’S OWN PROPERTY. (a) A person in lawful possession of land or tangible, movable property is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to prevent or terminate the other ’s trespass on the land or unlawful interference with the property.

    and

    Sec. 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property: (1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and (2)when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary: (A) to prevent the other ’s imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime;

    Don't Mess With Texas.
     
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    Whelp, read the thread. Read the article. Read your post. I'm assuming that by what you said in the bolded part you believe he wasn't arrested simply because he's white. And the article clearly makes a point about the skin color of the property owner. It is clear what the point is of mentioning skin color. And its clear that they are only reporting one side of the story. Putting emphasis of what they were told, by biased people, of what the driver was "like". Funny how I never see the same when skin colors are reversed.

    As to what happened...there is simply too little information to determine guilt or innocence of the property owner. Anyone that has come to a conclusion already is only doing so out of political biases.....at best.
     
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    Not only that they allow the girlfriend who was not there and is not a forensic expert, other than what she may have seen on the crime shows, tell what happen as if it were facts and what an investigation discovered. Why are they letting her describe what happened?
     
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    That headline (WHITE man shoots BROWN man), is like something from a dystopian novel about propaganda-driven totalitarian regimes.
     
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    Also, driving around alone at 3am for no apparent reason, is always going to expose you to trouble. That's why most people don't do it. That's why the streets are empty at 3am.

    It's the freaking witching hour .. we've known that since forever.
     
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    Looks like the police, smartly, are being tight with information.

    I've learned to never trust their initial reports.
     
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    Out in rural areas, people could kill you and no one can hear you scream.
    It's a different mentality.

    Police response times are often much longer too. Police can take an hour, 2 hours, in some remote places even 5 hours to show up.

    It's not really all that surprising property owners out in these places have to be more on the alert.
    Women who are alone all by themselves especially.

    Sometimes you just have to use intuition. Does this person look like they may likely to be a threat? Do they look more like a friendly neighbor nearby or more like a criminal lowlife who wants to burglarize your home?
     
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    Floyd was handcuffed, and contained, there was no need for the knee for 9 minutes - Floyd was murdered
     
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    The point was you make one little mistake - and mistakes can be easy to make - and the blame is on you.

    So now people are afraid to stop the criminal. (In the case of Floyd it was a little different because law enforcement were enforcing drug and traffic laws, but the same type of logic still applies)
     
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    Boy! ain't that the truth... I was standing on th eback porch takin' a whizz when this black dude with a dog and a gun comes waltzing thru my property .. I put away my penis and said " afternoon patrol;man, thanks for watching the Border!"
     
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    agree, I would have called the cops and waited inside, no reason to take the legal risk
     
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