Teaching Progressive/Leftist Ideology in our Schools

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Which is why teaching critical theory in schools is nonsense.

    Max Horkheimer first defined critical theory (German: Kritische Theorie) in his 1937 essay "Traditional and Critical Theory", as a social theory oriented toward critiquing and changing society as a whole, in contrast to traditional theory oriented only toward understanding or explaining it. Wanting to distinguish critical theory as a radical, emancipatory form of Marxist philosophy,....
     
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    HISTORY is an ACADEMIC subject.

    RACISM and SLAVERY are part of the HISTORY of our nation.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    No, thats what CRT does.
     
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    Not My Idea - Anastasia Higginbotham

    has nothing to do with history. Its written around the Michael Brown scenario when the little kid sees a black man with his hands up being shot on the TV news. Its false propaganda. Michael brown didnt have his hands up and was instead fighting over the cops gun.
     
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    What does this have to do with people outside teachers' homes threatening violence?
     
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    So, what history teacher would have read a book like this, true story or not? Do you have any idea why they wouldn't?
     
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    I'm not going to respond to a criticism of something I didn't say. I said public schools should not teach political ideology. They should teach academic subjects. Yes history is an academic subject. I didn't say history was not an academic subject. I didn't say history should not include the history of racism. The issue is political ideology.
     
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    They think they are playing clever word games, but, they are losing the room. The law THEY are seeking to block states:
    And the Edu-Thugs have filed suit, not to heartily voice their agreement, but to prevent the law from being enforced!
    First you call the parents "maggots", then you call them "liars" now you call them "self-appointed types that don't care about their own children". They aren't "self-appointed" they are the parents of these children and will remain so, not just until the end of the school year, but for every moment of the rest of their lives. Your open hatred, disdain and clear disrespect for the parents is precisely the attitude that is unfit for the classroom.
    Fake news: "The Oklahoma law bans teaching that anyone is “inherently racist, sexist or oppressive, whether consciously or unconsciously,” or that they should feel “discomfort, guilt, anguish or any other form of psychological distress” because of their race or sex." They are declaring the Edu-Thugs focus on race to be a great violation of the civil rights of the people of the State and unlawful. This law was drafted and passed by The People's representatives, not something crafted in a backroom, without public debate, by a group of Edu-Thugs operating without public accountability.

    Trying to smear these parents as Enemies of the State, and turning loose Dirtbag Garland and the Dirtbag FBI on them was a deeply dirty trick that they should have never tried to pull and is now blowing up in their face.

    The Edu-Thugs very much deserve what is coming their way. I trust that the decision of the Court will be a well-written, reasoned, fact-based, and PUBLISHED decision.

    The Edu-Thugs thought they were so clever endlessly extending the time out of the classroom, not realizing that finally parents were seeing, right in their own homes the utter crap being foisted onto our unsuspecting school children. Ooops!
     
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    CRT isn't being taught.

    I repeat: "The relevant question is the broad one of what is being taught by whom to whom. If these self-appointed types actually cared, they wouldn't just focus on CRT."
     
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    CRT isn't being taught. Why can't you "get it?" Again, the actual issue: what is being taught by whom to whom.

    The people behind the CRT flap are ginning up conflict around race for political gain.
     
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    No one buys that. Were that true, the Edu-Thugs would not be suing to stop laws banning it, and they wouldn't be spending $Millions of our taxpayer dollars on all this racist filth:
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    The parents aren't "self-appointed" the unaccountable Edu-Thugs are. These laws banning this racist divisive pile of lies from our classrooms are being passed by ELECTED representative Legislatures and signed into law by the ELECTED governor.

    These parents will be the parents of these children, not just for the school year, but for every moment of the rest of their lives. You should apologize for calling them "maggots" and "liars" and the insinuation that they are arrogating authority for acting fully within in their parental responsibilities.

    Further, you need not be so exercised. We very shortly should have very detailed, fact based well reasoned and published legal opinions resolving these disputes between the Elected Legislatures and the self-appointed Edu-Thugs.
     
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    I hear you but I'll take the opinions of parents of school age children. They disagree with you. Now you know why I don't get it.
     
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    I made it clear enough--the maggots are people attacking teachers with lies.
    You're saying the quote is fake news?
    Teachers are not teaching white kids should be ashamed of being white. That's an asinine charge.
    Blather.
    Why does anyone wonder why teachers join unions?
    You're promoting another Trumper rightwing Big Lie. If folks listen to you, they deserve what they get.
     
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    It isn't happening. If some few of millions of teachers are, fire them.
     
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    CRT is not being taught in schools.

    When will it sink in?
     
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    How do novelty, time-wasting "classes" have anything to do with any ideology? You're just on the prowl for ANYTHING you can find to denigrate and demean the "left". Typical RW intolerance.
     
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    Because the laws don't stop at banning CRT, whatever that is.
    You have no credibility on the subject of "racist filth."
    How about you not making up stuff about what I said?
    Who in their right mind would go into teaching these days?

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    Start teaching STEM subjects in Oklahoma for $31,606 a year and be subject to criminal prosecution?
     
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    CRT is not being taught.
     
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    Start a class.
     
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    No, it isn't. That stuff you keep quoting isn't a lesson plan.
     
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    I don’t want to be part of the problem. Skills should be taught in school. Not opinions. People should form opinions on their own
     
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    It has to do with the letter the NASB sent to the justice department that included reference to the arrest of the father whose daughter was raped. The same letter that didnt mention ANY incident of someone outside a teachers home doing anything.
     
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    The Teachers Union disagrees


    2. Supporting and leading campaigns that:
    • Result in increasing the implementation of culturally responsive education, critical race theory, and ethnic (Native people, Asian, Black, Latin(o/a/x), Middle Eastern, North African, and Pacific Islander) Studies curriculum in pre- K-12 and higher education;......
    C. Publicly (through existing media) convey its support for the accurate and honest teaching of social studies topics, including truthful and age-appropriate accountings of unpleasant aspects of American history, such as slavery, and the oppression and discrimination of Indigenous, Black, Brown, and other peoples of color, as well as the continued impact this history has on our current society. The Association will further convey that in teaching these topics, it is reasonable and appropriate for curriculum to be informed by academic frameworks for understanding and interpreting the impact of the past on current society, including critical race theory.

    E. Conduct a virtual listening tour that will educate members on the tools and resources needed to defend honesty in education including but not limited to tools like CRT.

    F. Commit President Becky Pringle to make public statements across all lines of media that support racial honesty in education including but not limited to critical race theory.

    "Join with Black Lives Matter at School and the Zinn Education Project to call for a rally this year on October 14—George Floyd’s birthday—as a national day of action to teach lessons about structural racism and oppression—even in places where it is illegal and requires civil disobedience."

    Business Items - 2021 NEA Annual Meeting (archive.org)
     
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    Well I was refuting your previous assertion that it wasn't "learning material". Slithering over to claim it isn't a "lesson plan" is meaningless.
     

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